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sunny San Diego I'm Greg Karl wood and

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while we might talk about balls flags

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because it's our access to knowledge and

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how we think about thinking that

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the system's kool-aid or get caught in

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that either lets us know to read between

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the lines of our corrupt system or the

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lack of these skills it has one waiting

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in line to cast a vote for Joe Biden

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it's even this foundation that

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determines if we ever really find our

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true will or if we get caught up in a

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meaningless cog in the wheel job for the

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mega corporations that would rather suck

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out your potential than have it realized

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that dear people is why the Empire has

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put so much effort into controlling the

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youth dumbing us down building a

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pipeline of obedient workers and as

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today's guest John quazy puts it

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teaching us what to think rather than

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how to think well we've talked about the

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education system before and if you

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thought it couldn't get any worse you

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are wrong because what John's new book

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school world order the technocratic

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globalization of corporate eyes

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education does is build on that

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background of great education advocates

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like Charlotte is our beat and john

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taylor gatto and breaks down the next

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stages of the schooling systems master

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plan if you don't know John he has a

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Master of Arts in English and has taught

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college rhetoric and research

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argumentation for over seven years his

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literary scholarship concentrates on the

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history of global eugenics and Aldous

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Huxley's brave new world he's also a

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contributor to the center of research on

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globalism and several alternative news

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websites but that is not all folks John

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also holds a black belt in classic

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Taekwondo and as a certified muy Thai

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kickboxing instructor and with that

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class is in session so let's get into it

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here he is the technocracy resisting

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teacher the school world order exposure

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and a passionate advocate for what's

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left of our children's minds John

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welcome to higher side hey great thanks

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for having me man that was a great

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introduction thanks man

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I try and I have been looking forward to

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this ever since Chris Milligan mentioned

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your book as one of the new releases

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from trying day when I talked to him

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last year now that I've read the book

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it's definitely impressive it's a pretty

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ironclad case for some scary

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applications of technology into the

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classroom

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everything is sourced and the endnotes

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are pretty much a book on their own and

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it seems like you've outlined the next

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phase of the agenda as well as anyone

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could I guess to kick this off tell us

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about the creation of the book you're

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definitely in good company with some of

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the other trying day

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others that you source yeah yeah so well

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it kind of started off kind of

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haphazardly just kind of came about

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education was not necessarily something

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that I planned on writing about because

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that's where I work I didn't want to you

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know necessarily poopoo where I sleep so

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to speak

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but at the time when I wrote one of the

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first articles that became one of the

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first chapters of the book I'm in

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Illinois and Governor Bruce rauner was

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basically stalling on the budget and

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what was happening was since he wasn't

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passing the budget we couldn't get

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funding for education and essentially

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what I saw was a scheme to bankrupt

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public education and to thereby fill it

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up with privatized education and rauner

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himself is a big proponent of what they

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call school choice it's a euphemism for

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corporatization of schooling through

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charter schools and other things like

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that will break down later he actually

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owns his own charter school as well so

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what I saw happening there made its way

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to my front door and one of my

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departments actually got shut down and

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so you know I just started off kind of

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like well let me just write about this

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if you know maybe the education is going

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in this direction and I had plugged some

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of the research of Charlotte Thompson is

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repeat in the article I had also noticed

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that Bruce rauner was big on a lot of

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buzz words the Charlotte warned about

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for many years so one of them was school

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choice and she said it's a euphemism for

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the corporatization of schooling through

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charter schools vouchers education

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savings accounts tax credits for tuition

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and things like that the other one is he

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used the phrase called cradle-to-career

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which is a euphemism for workforce

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training it's to replace academics with

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workforce training and so I saw those

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things kind of going down and you know I

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saw the economic situation I kind of put

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it all together in this piece and

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Charlotte actually ended up writing me I

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guess she read it it was on news with

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views and at first I'm looking at the

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email and thinking like oh this has got

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to be a virus or a scam this can't be

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her for whatever reason I couldn't find

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her email I wanted to send it to her and

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I couldn't find it I'm not that good at

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social media stuff I'm getting better

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I'm learning and so she reached out to

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me and we just became friends ever since

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she helped me with you know encouraging

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me also just partnering

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he's sending me research all the time

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sending me articles all the time it was

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funny a lot of times we'd be like I'm

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working on something that I'd had

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mentioned and she would send me

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something that plugged right into it at

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the same time I was also reading Anthony

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Sutton's introduction to the order of

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Skull and Bones America's secret

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establishment and at the time I'd known

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that schoolin bones were influential in

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world war ii and things like that I

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didn't know that they were very

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influential in education actually the

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first chapter in that book is all about

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it's called how the Order controls

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education and I saw basically the

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implementation of hegelian ism at work

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in this problem reaction solution

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scenario okay so the skullenbones is one

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of these organizations that basically

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promoted Hegelian ism in america the

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philosophy of the Galleon ism and one of

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those tenets of the Galleon ISM was

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basically that history progresses

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through ideas ideas that conflict okay

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you call one idea the main idea of the

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time is the thesis the opposing ideas

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usually are called the antithesis okay

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these two different opposing ideas they

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clash and then through this clash of

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this conflict comes a synthesis right in

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the colloquial world we might know this

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as problem reaction solution so you

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create the problem elicit a reaction and

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therefore you can bring in the solution

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and this is kind of what I saw happening

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with the bankruptcy of public education

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creating that crisis to basically offer

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privatization as the solution so it fit

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right in and come to find out though as

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I'm writing it actually the reason that

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Anthony Sutton actually even wrote that

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book or knew anything about the order of

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skullenbones is because he got that

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information from charlotte is ruby her

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father and her grandfather for both

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Bonesmen

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and she basically leaks it to sutton the

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black books and the black books are

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these address books at all Bonesmen get

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after they graduate so you should

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understand you know skullenbones is a

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senior Society which means that it's not

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a freshman Society meaning it's not

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meant to socialize or fraternize on

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campus during the years of your edge

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it's meant to socialize or create social

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relationships as you read college and

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those are relationships with a lot of

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old money families you got stuff like

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the Vanderbilts the Whitney's the

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Cabot's and then you got all there was

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recognizable like Rockefeller but that's

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kind of more of a new money family but

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these old money families and then later

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new money families through those address

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books they basically have a network to

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consolidate their businesses and things

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like that so when you get the address

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books it doesn't just have the people's

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names it also has you know what is their

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profession and things like that so are

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you looking for a lawyer are you looking

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for a financier are you looking for

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somebody that's the mining industry okay

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and to make sure you network in the

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proper circles so she gave these books

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to Sutton and Sutton basically he had

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realized what he had a problem figuring

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out when he wrote some academic tomes

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called Western technology and Soviet

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economic development the three-volume

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series that he wrote was that Stanford

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the Hoover Institute and basically he

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was looking at how the West u.s. in

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particular influenced the development

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the industrial and technological

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development of Russia during Bolshevik

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Revolution and then also during the Cold

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War and it never made sense to him

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because he figured right if we're at war

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with these people why are we helping

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them and from his research basically it

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shows that you know they largely would

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have been able to build up without us so

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he basically created the enemy and it

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never made sense to him until he picked

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up and looked at those names in the

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order of Skull and Bones because what he

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found was names that correlated with

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certain banks and other industries that

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financed the Soviet Union so one of them

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would have been the Ruskin Bank and I

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think Guaranty Trust is one of them I

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know guarantee trust was involved in

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funding the Nazis it might have been

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both I'd might be skewing that fact as I

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said it's a tangled web it's a very

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tangled web the precise documentation is

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in the book right it's about a almost

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500 page book it's 350 pages of reading

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the rest of it is citations those are

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the actual bibliography those are all

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government sources journals

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you know mainstream news and you know

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things like that that's accepted as

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credible in mainstream you magazine

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but what Sutton found basically was that

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the order was this you could put it over

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all these weird things that shouldn't

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make sense in these seeming

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contradictions in the world of

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geopolitics but if you lay the order of

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Skull and Bones over it where the

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philosophy of a galleon is a problem

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reaction solution it all made sense I'm

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figuring all these connections as I'm

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writing in as I'm coming in contact with

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Charlotte the Chris Milligan my

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publisher at trying to I'm stumbled on

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anything would be with him on the

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Opperman report and he's the one that

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published Sutton's America's secret

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establishment Yury published it was

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published prior to that and there was

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all kinds of mercantile games and

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censorship that they kept it off of a

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lot of bookshelves and then it basically

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went on a friend and Chris was like we

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have to save this and so they republish

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that and then him and Chris basically

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became research partners and they wrote

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another book called fleshing out Skull

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and Bones which is an excellent tome on

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not just Sutton's work but a compendium

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of other authors such as retro car Polly

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and people like that you know if there's

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something you want to research it came

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in really handy for me because not only

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did he have all the names of all the

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people in the black books and who

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they're basically associated with all

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the address names but he had them listed

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in alphabetical order and also by year

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so you know depending on what you're

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looking for you know like I dug through

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these and looked at him name for name

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over several days you know that comes in

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handy but I found that and so I figured

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that

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I asked Charlotte to forward the request

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to Chris to kind of publish what I had

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going together and it kind of worked out

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that what I was writing and what I've

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written has basically been right next to

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you know the original sources you know

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so it's as you mentioned based largely

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on Sutton's works and Charlotte is

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Ruby's deliberate dumbing down of

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America so yeah that's how it kind of

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came about and you know I like to think

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that I'm carrying the torch of all the

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great work that those three have done

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and standing on their shoulders yes yes

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great company here in and I think it's a

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really smart application of this

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research because of course people know

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as we get older we sometimes aren't as

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clued in on new technology and the

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things that are happening to younger

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generations and that is basically where

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your book picks up I mean it's got the

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history in there but it's really this

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latest phase the technological

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application of these philosophies this

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alien philosophy in the school system

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and it's it's scary it is pretty

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impactful and so sometimes in conspiracy

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culture we talk about agendas and

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players long after their influence has

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waned sometimes we make our own boogie

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men after their power is kind of fizzled

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out but we do see agents of skull and

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bones

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working on this technocratic phase of

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education even today right oh yeah

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absolutely

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so today if I could give a little

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background yes because the main person I

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could refer to now is minuchin

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skullenbones Treasury secretary okay his

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is kind of indirect because what he's

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done is he helped a lot with Trump's tax

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cuts tax cuts and Jobs Act which some

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people call the tax cuts in a robots act

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because there's something called the

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full and immediate expensing clause

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which basically works like this okay

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when you buy new equipment as a business

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okay that equipment will depreciate over

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time and over time you can write off

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that depreciation the fluent immediate

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expensing a clause enables you in the

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coming years if you buy new equipment

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you can write off full depreciation that

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first year so basically what a lot of

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economist says look that suggests that

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what it will do is incentivize

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automation because you can basically buy

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you know for however many millions of

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dollars this robot or this software

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program that can automate a bunch of

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your labor and although it would cost

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more than it would to pay your labor

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force for that year you're gonna get all

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that money back at the end and then

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you're going to basically cut out all

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that labor expenditure from there forth

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that would play into the education

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because it would obviously right

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incentivize the automation of some of

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these what they call adaptive learning

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software which are based on the Skinner

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box

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okay BF Skinner's teaching machine which

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is based on psychological conditioning

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principles of behaviorism in particular

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operant conditioning which is a

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progression of behaviorism but it all

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goes back to the stuff called stimulus

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response conditioning which came from

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the father of psychology as a laboratory

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science named vilhelm went and this

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would basically back us all the way up

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to the point where I was gonna start

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instead of backing up - so there was a

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psychology starch with vilhelm Flint and

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basically before that psychology was the

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discipline of philosophy and so you know

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largely meant studying of the soul or

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the psyche okay but you know Flint

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basically took an empirical approach

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says you're never going to be able to

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measure that thing so what you're going

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to do is we can sort of measure whatever

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the essence of a person is based on

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their behaviors and we can reshape that

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essence by tree shape

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their behaviors and we reshape their

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behaviors based on the social

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environment so behaviors are responses

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to your environment the retirement is

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broken down into a different what he

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called stimuli and then you have

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responses to those stimuli okay

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basically this is the beginning of stuff

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like Pavlov's dog with classical

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conditioning people don't remember that

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story it's basically all right you can

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conditioned associations between

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unnatural stimuli by associating them

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with natural stimuli and then you

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transfer whatever is the response to the

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natural stimuli to the unnatural so

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Pavlov demonstrated that a natural

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stimuli of food would make a dog

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salivate

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if you rang a bell it would then

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associate the bell with the food

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eventually you can ring the bell without

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the food and since the dog associated

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the bell with the food it would salivate

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and so this basically becomes the

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principle for education

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it's transferred over to the American

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University system the American education

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system by this guy Daniel Quaid Gilman

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and then two others Andrew Dixon white

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and Timothy Dwight these three are what

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sudden refers to as the troika of

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skullenbones they helped to set up the

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early university system that is they set

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up Gilman in particular was the first

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president at Johns Hopkins University

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Cornell and Cal Berkeley they set those

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strip together maybe one of those is the

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president I might as scramble some of

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those details there but they all

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basically promote not just the Galleon

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ism but one thing stimulus response

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psychology okay basically that is

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carried on later it gets passed down

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from G Stanley Hall who Gilman hires at

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Johns Hopkins University he passes it

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down to John Dewey who basically pushes

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it at the University of Chicago and

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Columbia University he has a student

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John B Watson who basically comes up

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with this thing called behaviorism also

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applies it to advertising and then

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there's also Al Thorndike who comes out

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of the same tradition the same school at

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Columbia University pl-4 and I because

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the guy that popularizes what he called

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the puzzlebox experiments this is the

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beginning of putting rats and mazes and

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things and there's

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objected that you wanted to get and

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you're gonna condition it to get that

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objective based on not just a vague

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association between a single stimulus in

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a response but through a series of

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punishments and rewards associating

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punishment and reward with the stimulus

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of the response BF Skinner picks that up

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and he applies it to the modern computer

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back then it was the teaching machine

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okay he just added some other quadrants

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to the punishment reward system and then

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he basically suggested that he literally

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said he could make a pigeon a high

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achiever on the proper schedule hmm so

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he comes up with the teaching machine

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and this is pushed by skullenbones Minh

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McGeorge Bundy so Gilman Dwight and

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white pass it down to george bundy this

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is around the 60s the teaching machine

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which for BF Skinner was this analog

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thing like you can look at Smithsonian

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website see pictures of it it's kind of

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like the old view masters if you

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remember the view master thing I used to

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get these little discs and had pictures

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of Disney scenes or whatever cartoon on

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it you put it in these goggles and you

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hold the goggles up to your face and

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then you pull this slide and it rotates

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the disc and you see a different picture

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in time well put on that disc questions

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that you have to answer and then you can

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only go one way with the rotation so as

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you go through you'd answer these

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questions that are the stimulus your

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answer is the response and then he

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actually some of these machines would

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have chocolate and things that they

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would dispense if you got right answers

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you know soap reward punishment or lack

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of reward and so he figured that this

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was a way that you could teach people

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well you just take that and you remove

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all the analog stuff like the gears and

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the wheels and all that and you just

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make it digital and you turn those into

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Windows on a computer screen and that's

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your modern teaching computer which is

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called the adaptive learning software

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which runs on the stimulus-response

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psychological conditioning principle

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that can be promoted through the

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Newton's tax cuts and Jobs Act damn that

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is a whirlwind but that really is the

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the background the history of Education

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and we can see these behaviorist

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techniques applied to school pretty

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easily using the bells as Pavlovian

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training conditioning us for a life of

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clock in clock out

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watching the country slowly drift lower

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and lower across the educational

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categories and this idea of workforce

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00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:08,600
training we often think of it as

552
00:21:14,500 --> 00:21:11,930
something from back in the day of like

553
00:21:17,140 --> 00:21:14,510
the assembly line you know teaching

554
00:21:18,850 --> 00:21:17,150
people just listen for that work whistle

555
00:21:21,340 --> 00:21:18,860
go to lunch and then come back for

556
00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:21,350
another four hours of screwing this

557
00:21:25,810 --> 00:21:24,410
bolts onto this piece of metal it's not

558
00:21:28,090 --> 00:21:25,820
like we have assembly lines anymore

559
00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:28,100
necessarily but it definitely seems like

560
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:30,730
this idea of workforce training is just

561
00:21:36,700 --> 00:21:33,770
masked as education and this isn't

562
00:21:38,950 --> 00:21:36,710
necessarily new it's just kind of a new

563
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:38,960
application of this old behavior is

564
00:21:44,140 --> 00:21:41,450
thinking is that fair to say yeah

565
00:21:45,910 --> 00:21:44,150
actually you know I could segue to some

566
00:21:48,250 --> 00:21:45,920
of the other points which an analog

567
00:21:50,530 --> 00:21:48,260
would be the assembly line on like sort

568
00:21:52,300 --> 00:21:50,540
of a factory production system well they

569
00:21:53,890 --> 00:21:52,310
have a you know a new pedagogy it's

570
00:21:56,770 --> 00:21:53,900
fancy word for teaching philosophy

571
00:21:58,630 --> 00:21:56,780
called Career Pathways so basically

572
00:22:00,850 --> 00:21:58,640
instead of having the liberal arts

573
00:22:02,710 --> 00:22:00,860
academic tradition of learning you know

574
00:22:05,140 --> 00:22:02,720
the Trivium and the quadrivium the three

575
00:22:07,690 --> 00:22:05,150
language arts and traditional math and

576
00:22:10,660 --> 00:22:07,700
science arts you would basically get put

577
00:22:13,270 --> 00:22:10,670
on a career path that's based on a

578
00:22:14,890 --> 00:22:13,280
predetermined job that you're going to

579
00:22:17,590 --> 00:22:14,900
work and this goes with a philosophy

580
00:22:19,630 --> 00:22:17,600
called competency-based education or

581
00:22:21,700 --> 00:22:19,640
outcomes based education they're

582
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:21,710
basically flip sides of the same coin or

583
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:23,450
different versions of each other so

584
00:22:27,670 --> 00:22:25,490
outcomes based education says that we

585
00:22:31,120 --> 00:22:27,680
teach people based on predetermined

586
00:22:33,270 --> 00:22:31,130
outcomes okay so basically we have an

587
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:33,280
outcome we want the student to reach

588
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:36,650
prior to that and then that usually

589
00:22:41,380 --> 00:22:39,170
means a particular job or particular set

590
00:22:43,330 --> 00:22:41,390
of job skills well as you mentioned

591
00:22:45,430 --> 00:22:43,340
right that old whistle system which you

592
00:22:47,380 --> 00:22:45,440
know the analog is the bell system now

593
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:47,390
that goes to what was called Taylorism

594
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:49,490
so this guy Taylor back in the

595
00:22:54,490 --> 00:22:51,770
industrial period basically took the

596
00:22:56,650 --> 00:22:54,500
scientific method he broke it down to

597
00:22:59,020 --> 00:22:56,660
make people not just make the assembly

598
00:23:00,550 --> 00:22:59,030
line more efficient but actually get

599
00:23:02,770 --> 00:23:00,560
more labor out of people and to

600
00:23:04,300 --> 00:23:02,780
compartmentalize what you're doing and

601
00:23:06,250 --> 00:23:04,310
so that just gets transferred to the

602
00:23:08,890 --> 00:23:06,260
career path so you only have to learn

603
00:23:09,340 --> 00:23:08,900
enough to perform the job and nothing

604
00:23:11,750 --> 00:23:09,350
more

605
00:23:13,370 --> 00:23:11,760
beyond that okay this is the competence

606
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:13,380
bass part so you have a particular

607
00:23:17,750 --> 00:23:15,210
outcome which is for a particular

608
00:23:20,120 --> 00:23:17,760
industry that they predetermine you are

609
00:23:22,460 --> 00:23:20,130
suitable for and then you're only going

610
00:23:24,380 --> 00:23:22,470
to be taught to be just competent enough

611
00:23:26,120 --> 00:23:24,390
to do that job and they're not going to

612
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:26,130
give you anything else outside of that

613
00:23:30,020 --> 00:23:27,450
because you know that would make things

614
00:23:31,970 --> 00:23:30,030
not run as smoothly right you might be

615
00:23:34,100 --> 00:23:31,980
I'm not happy pulling your lever or

616
00:23:36,500 --> 00:23:34,110
pushing your button or clicking your

617
00:23:38,570 --> 00:23:36,510
keyboard or whatever you might have

618
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:38,580
higher aspirations and higher thoughts

619
00:23:43,910 --> 00:23:41,610
so yeah it fits right into that they

620
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:43,920
refer to it as a conveyor belt system in

621
00:23:49,550 --> 00:23:45,690
the Harlem Children's Zone it's a big

622
00:23:52,580 --> 00:23:49,560
charter school system mm-hmm man this is

623
00:23:55,250 --> 00:23:52,590
all such great info and it's funny how

624
00:23:57,050 --> 00:23:55,260
if we're looking at the previous age we

625
00:24:00,740 --> 00:23:57,060
would say that the state shouldn't

626
00:24:02,660 --> 00:24:00,750
control education that the government

627
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:02,670
shouldn't be able to take our kids and

628
00:24:07,910 --> 00:24:05,010
force them to be in the school system

629
00:24:10,310 --> 00:24:07,920
eight hours a day until adulthood but

630
00:24:13,220 --> 00:24:10,320
now I mean it's looking like the better

631
00:24:16,250 --> 00:24:13,230
option compared to privatizing it for

632
00:24:19,010 --> 00:24:16,260
technocratic corporate control I guess

633
00:24:20,780 --> 00:24:19,020
talk to us about how this should concern

634
00:24:23,870 --> 00:24:20,790
us this pivot and how these corporations

635
00:24:26,180 --> 00:24:23,880
are weaseling into education because it

636
00:24:27,830 --> 00:24:26,190
seems like you know we just

637
00:24:30,020 --> 00:24:27,840
you gave the background and it's like

638
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:30,030
well the state shouldn't control this

639
00:24:34,060 --> 00:24:31,530
but I guess it's the lesser of two evils

640
00:24:36,670 --> 00:24:34,070
in a sense

641
00:24:38,530 --> 00:24:36,680
yeah so there's a couple things there

642
00:24:41,020 --> 00:24:38,540
like so how did the corporations get in

643
00:24:42,940 --> 00:24:41,030
is one question because I do advocate

644
00:24:45,010 --> 00:24:42,950
for basically saving the public

645
00:24:46,810 --> 00:24:45,020
education system right or defending it

646
00:24:48,820 --> 00:24:46,820
right but I do look at write the history

647
00:24:50,140 --> 00:24:48,830
of compulsory education which is also

648
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:50,150
set up by skull and bones that's

649
00:24:54,970 --> 00:24:52,610
Alphonso Taft at Antioch College Horace

650
00:24:57,250 --> 00:24:54,980
Mann and people like that based on 15

651
00:24:58,990 --> 00:24:57,260
and Hegelian philosophy

652
00:25:01,510 --> 00:24:59,000
and you're right you know there is that

653
00:25:04,780 --> 00:25:01,520
what the state controls will be you know

654
00:25:05,740 --> 00:25:04,790
used for the state's benefit but you

655
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:05,750
know there's different philosophies

656
00:25:10,420 --> 00:25:07,850
about what is the public sector versus

657
00:25:11,740 --> 00:25:10,430
the state right and I don't just say

658
00:25:13,510 --> 00:25:11,750
that flippantly like you know your

659
00:25:15,550 --> 00:25:13,520
github or Moz would say something like

660
00:25:17,740 --> 00:25:15,560
the public is actually separate from

661
00:25:19,750 --> 00:25:17,750
both the state and the private right it

662
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:19,760
would be something like the Commons I'm

663
00:25:23,020 --> 00:25:21,290
not saying you know we can necessarily

664
00:25:25,360 --> 00:25:23,030
get that far back to that type of a

665
00:25:28,030 --> 00:25:25,370
public education system but ultimately

666
00:25:30,910 --> 00:25:28,040
my solution is local control at some

667
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:30,920
level and that requires some sort of a

668
00:25:35,260 --> 00:25:32,690
public sphere now you know do you want

669
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:35,270
to use harbor Mazdas Commons definition

670
00:25:38,020 --> 00:25:36,770
or something that has a closer

671
00:25:40,090 --> 00:25:38,030
relationship to what we would

672
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:40,100
traditionally called state apparatus you

673
00:25:45,460 --> 00:25:42,530
know at either level that is the

674
00:25:47,590 --> 00:25:45,470
scenario where the individual person the

675
00:25:49,780 --> 00:25:47,600
individual citizen has the most control

676
00:25:52,360 --> 00:25:49,790
over the curriculum and with their kids

677
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:52,370
learn so you know that's why that needs

678
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:54,610
to be preserved in some state and

679
00:25:58,900 --> 00:25:57,170
protected from the corporatization so

680
00:26:01,600 --> 00:25:58,910
the corporatization as we mentioned well

681
00:26:02,740 --> 00:26:01,610
there's two layers to that we talked

682
00:26:04,150 --> 00:26:02,750
about the first one first which is

683
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:04,160
actually the privatization of the

684
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:06,050
schools themselves this means turning

685
00:26:11,050 --> 00:26:09,290
them into charter schools which are

686
00:26:12,550 --> 00:26:11,060
basically public private it's different

687
00:26:14,380 --> 00:26:12,560
from just a private school where you

688
00:26:15,970 --> 00:26:14,390
know you pay your own cash and then it's

689
00:26:18,130 --> 00:26:15,980
separate from the government's scenario

690
00:26:20,580 --> 00:26:18,140
the corporatization of schooling means

691
00:26:23,410 --> 00:26:20,590
you have a private company that takes

692
00:26:25,360 --> 00:26:23,420
government tax dollars to subsidize it

693
00:26:27,730 --> 00:26:25,370
and then the students or the parents

694
00:26:29,980 --> 00:26:27,740
also pay a tuition so it's both of those

695
00:26:31,330 --> 00:26:29,990
combined this is essentially what I

696
00:26:32,770 --> 00:26:31,340
would call fascism this is what

697
00:26:34,750 --> 00:26:32,780
Charlotte called it when she was at the

698
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:34,760
Department of Education and she saw

699
00:26:38,590 --> 00:26:36,410
Reagan's the private sector initiative

700
00:26:39,670 --> 00:26:38,600
and you know she says people looked at

701
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:39,680
her and kind of said well we didn't

702
00:26:43,390 --> 00:26:41,570
think about it like it was fascism

703
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:43,400
Charlotte but I don't know how else you

704
00:26:47,740 --> 00:26:45,050
could think about it because you know I

705
00:26:48,910 --> 00:26:47,750
mean using Mussolini's term line I know

706
00:26:51,570 --> 00:26:48,920
that people have said it's apocryphal

707
00:26:54,580 --> 00:26:51,580
but it's come to be used ubiquitously

708
00:26:57,130 --> 00:26:54,590
for largely what we refer to when we

709
00:26:58,990 --> 00:26:57,140
talk about fascism - the ethnic part and

710
00:27:00,910 --> 00:26:59,000
the nationalist part wishes it's the

711
00:27:03,250 --> 00:27:00,920
merger of the government in the

712
00:27:05,230 --> 00:27:03,260
corporate sector and that's neither

713
00:27:07,270 --> 00:27:05,240
public nor private so you don't have

714
00:27:10,420 --> 00:27:07,280
rights as a citizen and you don't have

715
00:27:11,140 --> 00:27:10,430
any rights to tell the company what to

716
00:27:13,180 --> 00:27:11,150
do unless you

717
00:27:14,770 --> 00:27:13,190
employees there and then you still are

718
00:27:17,710 --> 00:27:14,780
right you don't have rights like a

719
00:27:20,110 --> 00:27:17,720
citizen there either okay so that

720
00:27:21,790 --> 00:27:20,120
happens through the charter schools but

721
00:27:23,890 --> 00:27:21,800
it also happens through the voucher

722
00:27:25,330 --> 00:27:23,900
system and so that means basically what

723
00:27:27,430 --> 00:27:25,340
they're doing is you can get a voucher

724
00:27:28,660 --> 00:27:27,440
and then you can take that voucher so

725
00:27:30,340 --> 00:27:28,670
the government's gonna give you some

726
00:27:32,890 --> 00:27:30,350
money usually federal or sometimes they

727
00:27:35,770 --> 00:27:32,900
have state vouchers and they're going to

728
00:27:37,210 --> 00:27:35,780
give you this money and you're gonna

729
00:27:39,130 --> 00:27:37,220
take that money to pay for tuition

730
00:27:40,870 --> 00:27:39,140
wherever you want to go if you want to

731
00:27:43,180 --> 00:27:40,880
take your child out of the public school

732
00:27:45,100 --> 00:27:43,190
system okay but with that voucher that

733
00:27:46,690 --> 00:27:45,110
means that that private school let's say

734
00:27:48,130 --> 00:27:46,700
it was a parochial school right it could

735
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:48,140
have been a old religious school

736
00:27:51,580 --> 00:27:50,090
Catholic school or something right when

737
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:51,590
they start taking that voucher money

738
00:27:55,360 --> 00:27:53,210
they have federal money they're subject

739
00:27:56,830 --> 00:27:55,370
to federal jurisdiction so now you know

740
00:27:58,480 --> 00:27:56,840
if you took your children there to get

741
00:28:00,790 --> 00:27:58,490
out of the public school system or out

742
00:28:03,220 --> 00:28:00,800
of better said the government school

743
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:03,230
system you're not because by taking the

744
00:28:07,660 --> 00:28:04,610
voucher the federal money there you're

745
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:07,670
taking the federal policies with it down

746
00:28:12,220 --> 00:28:10,610
the road this has more pernicious

747
00:28:15,940 --> 00:28:12,230
effects in the sense that it can

748
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:15,950
basically destroy the public governance

749
00:28:20,169 --> 00:28:18,410
of education because charter schools

750
00:28:21,850 --> 00:28:20,179
just like any company right they're

751
00:28:24,010 --> 00:28:21,860
subject to the corporate Council there

752
00:28:25,570 --> 00:28:24,020
is no elected body for a charter school

753
00:28:28,150 --> 00:28:25,580
there's no elected school board so

754
00:28:30,190 --> 00:28:28,160
essentially it would get rid of elected

755
00:28:32,860 --> 00:28:30,200
school boards there's a guy his name is

756
00:28:34,270 --> 00:28:32,870
Reed Hastings he did this because it a

757
00:28:37,530 --> 00:28:34,280
TEDTalk he was a TEDTalk

758
00:28:40,540 --> 00:28:37,540
does a big presentation on what he calls

759
00:28:42,100 --> 00:28:40,550
self-perpetuating governance and this is

760
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:42,110
the model that's used for charter

761
00:28:44,770 --> 00:28:43,490
schools and these funds charter schools

762
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:44,780
all kinds of charter schools he sat on

763
00:28:48,850 --> 00:28:47,330
charter school board in California and

764
00:28:50,260 --> 00:28:48,860
he said it's better than elected school

765
00:28:52,299 --> 00:28:50,270
boards cuz elected school boards are

766
00:28:53,740 --> 00:28:52,309
messy because you know you gotta people

767
00:28:55,270 --> 00:28:53,750
disagree in and then you know if you

768
00:28:56,919 --> 00:28:55,280
finally got somebody good in for four

769
00:28:58,210 --> 00:28:56,929
years they might vote them out for some

770
00:29:00,640 --> 00:28:58,220
reason and then you gotta start all over

771
00:29:02,590 --> 00:29:00,650
he says it's better to self perpetuate

772
00:29:03,250 --> 00:29:02,600
the policy so you can keep moving

773
00:29:06,190 --> 00:29:03,260
forward

774
00:29:09,250 --> 00:29:06,200
with whatever progress you're making so

775
00:29:10,750 --> 00:29:09,260
this public-private merger of the

776
00:29:15,250 --> 00:29:10,760
corporate sector and private sector in

777
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:15,260
education also takes the form of I guess

778
00:29:18,100 --> 00:29:16,730
it would look more like the communist

779
00:29:19,690 --> 00:29:18,110
version as opposed to the fascist

780
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:19,700
version but there's still public private

781
00:29:23,830 --> 00:29:21,530
it's still merger of government and

782
00:29:24,610 --> 00:29:23,840
business and those are what are called

783
00:29:26,980 --> 00:29:24,620
commune

784
00:29:28,660 --> 00:29:26,990
schools okay or full service Community

785
00:29:30,850 --> 00:29:28,670
Schools and those have to actually have

786
00:29:32,530 --> 00:29:30,860
mental health components and criminal

787
00:29:34,030 --> 00:29:32,540
justice components according to the

788
00:29:35,950 --> 00:29:34,040
every student succeeds act if you want

789
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:35,960
to get grants from the federal

790
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:37,730
government under the every student

791
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:39,290
succeeds Act which replaces the

792
00:29:44,740 --> 00:29:41,330
Elementary and Secondary Education Act

793
00:29:47,650 --> 00:29:44,750
of 1960 so it's the main federal law

794
00:29:49,630 --> 00:29:47,660
overseeing public education you have to

795
00:29:51,700 --> 00:29:49,640
have those components in your community

796
00:29:54,370 --> 00:29:51,710
school they don't have to only be

797
00:29:56,590 --> 00:29:54,380
facilitated through the federal level at

798
00:29:59,310 --> 00:29:56,600
the state level you have these things

799
00:30:02,350 --> 00:29:59,320
called P 16 or P 20 councils and

800
00:30:05,650 --> 00:30:02,360
basically these are state-level councils

801
00:30:08,230 --> 00:30:05,660
that have legal stipulations for the

802
00:30:11,890 --> 00:30:08,240
same connections between education

803
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:11,900
mental health and criminal justice the P

804
00:30:17,799 --> 00:30:15,410
16 refers to pre education or preschool

805
00:30:20,290 --> 00:30:17,809
up to age 16 and then they started

806
00:30:22,510 --> 00:30:20,300
adding the 20 right so that means after

807
00:30:25,030 --> 00:30:22,520
you've graduated your traditional high

808
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:25,040
school education which means it's into

809
00:30:28,540 --> 00:30:27,050
your adulthood and this parallels with

810
00:30:31,690 --> 00:30:28,550
something called the United Nations

811
00:30:33,669 --> 00:30:31,700
lifelong learning pedagogy and funny

812
00:30:35,169 --> 00:30:33,679
enough if you look in the UK they have

813
00:30:38,950 --> 00:30:35,179
something that parallels that called the

814
00:30:40,900 --> 00:30:38,960
post 16 skills and so basically what

815
00:30:43,660 --> 00:30:40,910
you're seeing then is right at the state

816
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:43,670
and federal levels globally you have

817
00:30:47,110 --> 00:30:45,170
these different versions of what are

818
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:47,120
called the UN's lifelong learning

819
00:30:53,430 --> 00:30:50,170
policies which is gonna mix together

820
00:30:55,630 --> 00:30:53,440
international standards through

821
00:31:00,190 --> 00:30:55,640
public-private partnerships largely ran

822
00:31:03,490 --> 00:31:00,200
by private companies mmm-hmm yeah man

823
00:31:06,310 --> 00:31:03,500
just so much information and we can

824
00:31:09,010 --> 00:31:06,320
definitely see how a publicly elected

825
00:31:12,430 --> 00:31:09,020
school board is way better than these P

826
00:31:15,580 --> 00:31:12,440
16 P 20 corporate controlled councils

827
00:31:17,830 --> 00:31:15,590
and it's like you know despite

828
00:31:20,950 --> 00:31:17,840
everything they tried to set up with

829
00:31:24,669 --> 00:31:20,960
education initially the human factor

830
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:24,679
still survived we all had inspirational

831
00:31:29,890 --> 00:31:27,170
teachers in an uninspired system and

832
00:31:32,980 --> 00:31:29,900
it's like what's going on now is a new

833
00:31:34,810 --> 00:31:32,990
phase of refinement of the same old

834
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:34,820
control agenda they just have better

835
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:38,570
tools now and it's like there

836
00:31:44,019 --> 00:31:40,490
eliminating that human factor they're

837
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:44,029
eliminating the local school boards who

838
00:31:48,310 --> 00:31:46,250
might be altruistic and actually care

839
00:31:49,779 --> 00:31:48,320
about their kids education and if you

840
00:31:52,930 --> 00:31:49,789
can put it right into the hands of the

841
00:31:54,940 --> 00:31:52,940
corporation's it's just such a dirty

842
00:31:57,460 --> 00:31:54,950
trick and it's gonna be a lot more cold

843
00:31:59,409 --> 00:31:57,470
calculated and effective to get that

844
00:32:01,539 --> 00:31:59,419
agenda through like you said you take

845
00:32:05,049 --> 00:32:01,549
the government money now you're subject

846
00:32:07,299 --> 00:32:05,059
to government control and who is in

847
00:32:09,639 --> 00:32:07,309
these government positions well it's the

848
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:09,649
agents of the corporations because it's

849
00:32:16,210 --> 00:32:11,570
the same old revolving door that we see

850
00:32:17,470 --> 00:32:16,220
in GMOs or the FDA the EPA it's like you

851
00:32:20,049 --> 00:32:17,480
get the corporation's

852
00:32:21,639 --> 00:32:20,059
in there with the agencies that are

853
00:32:24,029 --> 00:32:21,649
supposed to police these sectors of

854
00:32:26,799 --> 00:32:24,039
society and then you get the full-on

855
00:32:28,450 --> 00:32:26,809
corporate role out and it's just crazy

856
00:32:30,879 --> 00:32:28,460
that I don't hear that many people

857
00:32:33,730 --> 00:32:30,889
talking about it in schooling but you're

858
00:32:35,860 --> 00:32:33,740
nailing it man yeah I should have added

859
00:32:37,350 --> 00:32:35,870
to it there's another angle is that so

860
00:32:40,060 --> 00:32:37,360
you know you're essentially then

861
00:32:40,810 --> 00:32:40,070
subsidizing not just the private

862
00:32:43,899 --> 00:32:40,820
corporate schools

863
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:43,909
you're also subsidizing the larger

864
00:32:48,279 --> 00:32:46,490
private industry that funnels into those

865
00:32:50,289 --> 00:32:48,289
career pathways so through these career

866
00:32:52,659 --> 00:32:50,299
pathways they also usually have not just

867
00:32:54,909 --> 00:32:52,669
hey we're going to predetermine based on

868
00:32:57,070 --> 00:32:54,919
your psychometric and your biometric

869
00:33:00,519 --> 00:32:57,080
algorithms that you are only suitable

870
00:33:01,990 --> 00:33:00,529
for a job a B or C it's not just that

871
00:33:04,690 --> 00:33:02,000
but it's you're suitable for this

872
00:33:06,850 --> 00:33:04,700
particular company based on what is in

873
00:33:08,710 --> 00:33:06,860
demand for industry in your local area

874
00:33:10,869 --> 00:33:08,720
okay so another part of removing the

875
00:33:11,499 --> 00:33:10,879
elected school boards is regional

876
00:33:13,899 --> 00:33:11,509
governance

877
00:33:16,029 --> 00:33:13,909
so through these different p20 right you

878
00:33:17,799 --> 00:33:16,039
don't only have the removal of the local

879
00:33:19,659 --> 00:33:17,809
elected school board but you start to

880
00:33:21,970 --> 00:33:19,669
regionalize then you start to regionally

881
00:33:24,039 --> 00:33:21,980
plan how the various schools in that

882
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:24,049
region are gonna coordinate each other's

883
00:33:27,820 --> 00:33:25,610
curriculums based on the larger

884
00:33:29,499 --> 00:33:27,830
industries in those regions and those

885
00:33:32,350 --> 00:33:29,509
are basically going to be pumped into

886
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:32,360
not your small mom-and-pop business

887
00:33:36,389 --> 00:33:33,970
these are gonna be the large you know

888
00:33:39,129 --> 00:33:36,399
multinational chains so you're also

889
00:33:40,869 --> 00:33:39,139
subsidizing their workforce training

890
00:33:42,430 --> 00:33:40,879
you're paying for them what they should

891
00:33:43,930 --> 00:33:42,440
be paying for their own in-house

892
00:33:47,289 --> 00:33:43,940
training for their own workers you're

893
00:33:50,889 --> 00:33:47,299
doing that as well mm-hmm-hmm it really

894
00:33:52,390 --> 00:33:50,899
is the same old philosophy that the

895
00:33:56,140 --> 00:33:52,400
elite carry which is this

896
00:33:58,990 --> 00:33:56,150
top-down empirical management this idea

897
00:34:01,030 --> 00:33:59,000
that well they need us to do what we're

898
00:34:03,100 --> 00:34:01,040
doing otherwise it would just be chaos

899
00:34:05,140 --> 00:34:03,110
out there they need our guidance they

900
00:34:07,630 --> 00:34:05,150
need our systems and we need to

901
00:34:10,450 --> 00:34:07,640
micromanage every little aspect of their

902
00:34:13,510 --> 00:34:10,460
lives not only for our own profits but

903
00:34:15,340 --> 00:34:13,520
because people are stupid and you know

904
00:34:17,290 --> 00:34:15,350
they don't do what we want them to do

905
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:17,300
and it's just it's the same backwards

906
00:34:22,350 --> 00:34:19,970
thinking this this elitism that we

907
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:22,360
really just need to get away from

908
00:34:25,860 --> 00:34:24,490
yeah and another thing about that is

909
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:25,870
that you know handle another part of

910
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:27,370
Headless philosophy was that he

911
00:34:30,630 --> 00:34:29,170
literally said that the state is God

912
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:30,640
marching on earth

913
00:34:34,980 --> 00:34:33,130
so for Hetal he's basically a pantheist

914
00:34:36,300 --> 00:34:34,990
right they say it would say pan Anthea

915
00:34:37,410 --> 00:34:36,310
so they would say there's a lot of

916
00:34:39,300 --> 00:34:37,420
people say well there wasn't like a

917
00:34:42,450 --> 00:34:39,310
layer to a transcendent being but

918
00:34:45,090 --> 00:34:42,460
largely God is coming down into all the

919
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:45,100
contradictions right and for him God was

920
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:47,770
also reason and logos not in the way

921
00:34:51,930 --> 00:34:50,170
that I would use it or the classical

922
00:34:54,030 --> 00:34:51,940
philosophers would use it but in more of

923
00:34:56,220 --> 00:34:54,040
a pantheist sense that through these

924
00:34:58,200 --> 00:34:56,230
contradictions I've because in formal

925
00:35:00,330 --> 00:34:58,210
logic you know the contradictions can't

926
00:35:02,220 --> 00:35:00,340
exist but forehead will truth came

927
00:35:05,250 --> 00:35:02,230
through contradictions it's through that

928
00:35:07,950 --> 00:35:05,260
and so the state was the perfect merger

929
00:35:10,290 --> 00:35:07,960
of whatever contradictions you had in

930
00:35:12,390 --> 00:35:10,300
the different spheres of the society and

931
00:35:15,540 --> 00:35:12,400
would be you know social stratification

932
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:15,550
or a caste system or whatever so in that

933
00:35:19,140 --> 00:35:17,290
sense he said that the state is God

934
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:19,150
marching on earth because it is

935
00:35:24,900 --> 00:35:22,330
basically the physical the material and

936
00:35:26,910 --> 00:35:24,910
energy manifestation of that

937
00:35:28,620 --> 00:35:26,920
transcendent thing through these

938
00:35:31,350 --> 00:35:28,630
different forces working together on

939
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:31,360
this plane here and this material plane

940
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:34,210
and another part of that dough meant

941
00:35:38,910 --> 00:35:37,090
that he had the slave master concept

942
00:35:41,580 --> 00:35:38,920
work okay so that would be an example of

943
00:35:44,970 --> 00:35:41,590
contradictions or these opposing forces

944
00:35:47,940 --> 00:35:44,980
but Hegel basically saw it as like this

945
00:35:50,340 --> 00:35:47,950
Union that the slave and the master were

946
00:35:52,470 --> 00:35:50,350
somehow part of this Union yang and they

947
00:35:54,540 --> 00:35:52,480
benefited from each other right despite

948
00:35:56,730 --> 00:35:54,550
what the slave might tell you from his

949
00:35:58,950 --> 00:35:56,740
own perspective right yeah so in those

950
00:36:00,690 --> 00:35:58,960
two elements of his philosophy that the

951
00:36:02,610 --> 00:36:00,700
state is God and then you just when you

952
00:36:04,500 --> 00:36:02,620
merge the state with the corporate you

953
00:36:07,110 --> 00:36:04,510
can also say that the corporations are

954
00:36:09,660 --> 00:36:07,120
God and that you know your work for

955
00:36:11,970 --> 00:36:09,670
slaves that they're supposed to be there

956
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:11,980
that it's a nice neat little unity in

957
00:36:14,940 --> 00:36:13,090
like you said it's good for society

958
00:36:16,830 --> 00:36:14,950
because it keeps everything running

959
00:36:18,540 --> 00:36:16,840
smoothly and you know if you just give

960
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:18,550
liberty and let everybody you know have

961
00:36:23,610 --> 00:36:21,130
their own transcendent logos basically

962
00:36:25,740 --> 00:36:23,620
that's gonna cause chaos and society

963
00:36:28,580 --> 00:36:25,750
will crumble so we have to control it in

964
00:36:31,890 --> 00:36:28,590
that way mm-hmm well said yes the

965
00:36:33,810 --> 00:36:31,900
dynamic of slave master and how their

966
00:36:35,210 --> 00:36:33,820
philosophy as well it's beneficial for

967
00:36:37,010 --> 00:36:35,220
the slave people want to be

968
00:36:39,349 --> 00:36:37,020
controlled exactly the kind of thing I

969
00:36:40,940 --> 00:36:39,359
was talking about and I wanted to ask

970
00:36:42,950 --> 00:36:40,950
you a little bit more about who's

971
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:42,960
responsible for some of this stuff today

972
00:36:48,050 --> 00:36:45,570
we hear the Gates Foundation so often

973
00:36:50,510 --> 00:36:48,060
but we have other players and other

974
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:50,520
tangled webs of nefarious connections

975
00:36:56,510 --> 00:36:54,450
what concerns you most what players are

976
00:36:59,300 --> 00:36:56,520
the ones we should be watching out for

977
00:37:03,320 --> 00:36:59,310
today people like Betsy DeVos I would

978
00:37:04,970 --> 00:37:03,330
assume yeah a lot of the key companies

979
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:04,980
that are pushing a lot of the

980
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:07,290
technologies it might not be some of the

981
00:37:11,839 --> 00:37:10,050
most well-known but certainly Betsy

982
00:37:14,210 --> 00:37:11,849
DeVos is one because not only is she

983
00:37:17,570 --> 00:37:14,220
right the Secretary of Education but she

984
00:37:19,670 --> 00:37:17,580
has a lot of shares and was once sitting

985
00:37:23,330 --> 00:37:19,680
on the board of a company called neuro

986
00:37:26,270 --> 00:37:23,340
core this is a biofeedback company that

987
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:26,280
basically also works with these digital

988
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:28,890
therapies for ADHD okay and this is a

989
00:37:33,859 --> 00:37:31,170
host of other companies that are in this

990
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:33,869
field called social-emotional learning

991
00:37:38,990 --> 00:37:36,450
okay and we can expand on that and

992
00:37:41,660 --> 00:37:39,000
another time but other companies that I

993
00:37:44,750 --> 00:37:41,670
would say are important contemporarily

994
00:37:47,210 --> 00:37:44,760
would be like IBM okay and it's got the

995
00:37:49,730 --> 00:37:47,220
Watson if you haven't seen commercials

996
00:37:51,859 --> 00:37:49,740
for this if you look at commercials it's

997
00:37:54,140 --> 00:37:51,869
essentially an AI program but it does

998
00:37:56,690 --> 00:37:54,150
everything from finance to security to

999
00:37:58,339 --> 00:37:56,700
education okay any pardons with Pearson

1000
00:37:59,170 --> 00:37:58,349
that's another one a big one Pearson

1001
00:38:01,910 --> 00:37:59,180
Education

1002
00:38:03,950 --> 00:38:01,920
Facebook Facebook is another one on

1003
00:38:06,339 --> 00:38:03,960
Facebook is developing virtual reality

1004
00:38:10,460 --> 00:38:06,349
and augmented reality technologies

1005
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:10,470
neural link which is Elon Musk's brain

1006
00:38:14,630 --> 00:38:12,810
computer interface company which I know

1007
00:38:17,240 --> 00:38:14,640
that it's got the prototypes ready but I

1008
00:38:19,700 --> 00:38:17,250
hadn't heard a story that he's saying it

1009
00:38:21,589 --> 00:38:19,710
should be commercially viable by the end

1010
00:38:24,260 --> 00:38:21,599
of this year so it's not just right

1011
00:38:25,820 --> 00:38:24,270
first he mentioned it on Joe Rogan then

1012
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:25,830
he showed you he did this presentation

1013
00:38:29,240 --> 00:38:27,450
and he showed you the actual device

1014
00:38:30,980 --> 00:38:29,250
hooked up to this giant computer that

1015
00:38:32,630 --> 00:38:30,990
sticks it in your head and now he's

1016
00:38:34,609 --> 00:38:32,640
saying that I guess we killed a by one

1017
00:38:36,770 --> 00:38:34,619
by the end of this year I was basically

1018
00:38:38,690 --> 00:38:36,780
a brain chip he's simpler way to say it

1019
00:38:41,190 --> 00:38:38,700
others that would be important would be

1020
00:38:43,049 --> 00:38:41,200
like the Gates Foundation

1021
00:38:46,140 --> 00:38:43,059
the Gates Foundation is a nonprofit

1022
00:38:47,910 --> 00:38:46,150
organization you know it's based on the

1023
00:38:49,589 --> 00:38:47,920
Microsoft fortune and by the way

1024
00:38:52,140 --> 00:38:49,599
Microsoft is another company it fits in

1025
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:52,150
here Gates Foundation I mean every

1026
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:54,490
chapter basically the Gates Foundation I

1027
00:38:58,380 --> 00:38:57,010
went through their grants you know I

1028
00:39:00,230 --> 00:38:58,390
went through them individually and look

1029
00:39:03,900 --> 00:39:00,240
for anything real Arden School Choice

1030
00:39:06,900 --> 00:39:03,910
vouchers adaptive learning software p20

1031
00:39:08,759 --> 00:39:06,910
council school-to-work all these things

1032
00:39:10,559 --> 00:39:08,769
and they've got tons of grants so every

1033
00:39:12,019 --> 00:39:10,569
chapter you'll find something about the

1034
00:39:15,690 --> 00:39:12,029
Gates Foundation the Gates Foundation

1035
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:15,700
what they do is essentially it's another

1036
00:39:20,759 --> 00:39:19,210
step in the history of how this whole

1037
00:39:23,130 --> 00:39:20,769
thing came about which is through

1038
00:39:25,799 --> 00:39:23,140
nonprofit organizations basically

1039
00:39:27,779 --> 00:39:25,809
funding not just the school system

1040
00:39:29,309 --> 00:39:27,789
itself and compulsory education but in

1041
00:39:31,579 --> 00:39:29,319
particular to stimulus-response

1042
00:39:33,150 --> 00:39:31,589
pedagogy and the workforce training

1043
00:39:35,430 --> 00:39:33,160
methodology and some of these

1044
00:39:37,710 --> 00:39:35,440
institutions include the Rockefeller

1045
00:39:39,569 --> 00:39:37,720
Foundation before he came up with his

1046
00:39:40,980 --> 00:39:39,579
Rockefeller Foundation he has several

1047
00:39:42,750 --> 00:39:40,990
different philanthropies besides that

1048
00:39:46,230 --> 00:39:42,760
the first one was the general education

1049
00:39:47,970 --> 00:39:46,240
board in the general education board one

1050
00:39:51,359 --> 00:39:47,980
of the people that sat on that was

1051
00:39:53,009 --> 00:39:51,369
Daniel quake Gilman okay and then also

1052
00:39:55,559 --> 00:39:53,019
it should be noted that Percy

1053
00:39:58,200 --> 00:39:55,569
rockefeller is a Bonesmen okay so both

1054
00:40:00,029 --> 00:39:58,210
Gilman and Rockefeller are essentially

1055
00:40:02,519 --> 00:40:00,039
Bonesmen families and both of them are

1056
00:40:05,130 --> 00:40:02,529
involved in the nonprofit funding of all

1057
00:40:06,720 --> 00:40:05,140
this stuff that torch kinda gets passed

1058
00:40:08,279 --> 00:40:06,730
to the Gates founded the Rockefeller

1059
00:40:10,529 --> 00:40:08,289
Foundation still does a lot the general

1060
00:40:12,839 --> 00:40:10,539
education board is no longer functioning

1061
00:40:15,450 --> 00:40:12,849
but the Gates Foundation really at least

1062
00:40:17,999 --> 00:40:15,460
in the public eye is really hooking up

1063
00:40:19,829 --> 00:40:18,009
the mantle of nonprofit funding I should

1064
00:40:21,870 --> 00:40:19,839
also mention the Ford Foundation is

1065
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:21,880
another one and another Bonesmen

1066
00:40:28,079 --> 00:40:23,650
associated with the Ford Foundation is

1067
00:40:29,370 --> 00:40:28,089
Oh Howard Herald how there it goes we

1068
00:40:30,029 --> 00:40:29,380
can't wanted to say Howard Hughes I'm

1069
00:40:33,749 --> 00:40:30,039
like a second

1070
00:40:37,319 --> 00:40:33,759
Harold how Gerald how the second man man

1071
00:40:40,230 --> 00:40:37,329
so much stuff and it really is

1072
00:40:42,690 --> 00:40:40,240
concerning me even just online schools

1073
00:40:44,519 --> 00:40:42,700
it's a simple way to remove the human

1074
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:44,529
component remove the teacher completely

1075
00:40:52,730 --> 00:40:48,970
and it is all going this crazy way and

1076
00:40:54,450 --> 00:40:52,740
the more you can get kids to adopt these

1077
00:40:57,349 --> 00:40:54,460
technologies in the class

1078
00:41:00,240 --> 00:40:57,359
because they must the more you can push

1079
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:00,250
transhumanist type agendas I mean not to

1080
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:01,930
mention just the simple fact that I

1081
00:41:06,690 --> 00:41:04,810
don't want my kids on an iPad in school

1082
00:41:09,180 --> 00:41:06,700
because of the screen addiction the way

1083
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:09,190
it rewires your brain chemistry for more

1084
00:41:14,339 --> 00:41:11,410
efficient marketing and the increased

1085
00:41:17,970 --> 00:41:14,349
EMF exposure I mean should fifty kids in

1086
00:41:19,980 --> 00:41:17,980
a classroom have these uh iPads you know

1087
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:19,990
right over the reproductive systems I'm

1088
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:22,570
not so sure they should and you know

1089
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:24,130
what can you do to get out of it and

1090
00:41:28,859 --> 00:41:25,690
that's the thing so as we're wrapping

1091
00:41:31,230 --> 00:41:28,869
this up I have heard you talk about the

1092
00:41:32,460 --> 00:41:31,240
book before and other interviews and how

1093
00:41:34,170 --> 00:41:32,470
you were gonna end it with this

1094
00:41:36,089 --> 00:41:34,180
transhumanist stuff that we were just

1095
00:41:39,270 --> 00:41:36,099
talking about and Chris is like whoa

1096
00:41:42,540 --> 00:41:39,280
whoa whoa you can't just you can't just

1097
00:41:44,490 --> 00:41:42,550
destroy a person's faith and in the

1098
00:41:48,599 --> 00:41:44,500
future I mean you got to give them some

1099
00:41:51,089 --> 00:41:48,609
hope and so just as you did in the book

1100
00:41:53,490 --> 00:41:51,099
we should naturally end with some kind

1101
00:41:55,829 --> 00:41:53,500
of solutions to this crazy nightmare

1102
00:41:58,560 --> 00:41:55,839
what would you advise people I mean you

1103
00:42:00,990 --> 00:41:58,570
are a teacher you're on the inside if

1104
00:42:03,030 --> 00:42:01,000
there's parents listening what would you

1105
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:03,040
say to them that they should even put

1106
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:05,130
their attention to or even fight for

1107
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:08,770
okay cool so solutions I broke down into

1108
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:11,050
like one two three four five ship

1109
00:42:17,220 --> 00:42:14,530
numbers a five-point simplify as much as

1110
00:42:19,829 --> 00:42:17,230
possible program okay let me give the

1111
00:42:21,570 --> 00:42:19,839
overview of a first knob do the details

1112
00:42:25,170 --> 00:42:21,580
on each and I ran out of time on the

1113
00:42:27,020 --> 00:42:25,180
Opperman I'm gonna do it differently

1114
00:42:29,790 --> 00:42:27,030
this time which is okay the first one is

1115
00:42:31,349 --> 00:42:29,800
maintain public control and local

1116
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:31,359
control means to save your elected

1117
00:42:35,790 --> 00:42:33,490
school boards ok the second part is to

1118
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:35,800
abolish the psychological conditioning

1119
00:42:40,170 --> 00:42:38,170
method in the classroom that means not

1120
00:42:41,910 --> 00:42:40,180
just the cell technology is not a high

1121
00:42:43,589 --> 00:42:41,920
tech stuff but right stuff that you

1122
00:42:45,660 --> 00:42:43,599
mentioned right like the star and

1123
00:42:48,420 --> 00:42:45,670
detention punishment reward system or

1124
00:42:50,130 --> 00:42:48,430
the bail system to compartmentalize hey

1125
00:42:51,540 --> 00:42:50,140
we're thinking about this topic now when

1126
00:42:52,710 --> 00:42:51,550
the bell rings turn that off and now

1127
00:42:55,380 --> 00:42:52,720
let's only think about this other

1128
00:42:57,870 --> 00:42:55,390
subject that type of stuff the third

1129
00:43:00,960 --> 00:42:57,880
component is digital student privacy

1130
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:00,970
which means to either eliminate ban or

1131
00:43:05,730 --> 00:43:02,650
to at least highly restricted data

1132
00:43:07,650 --> 00:43:05,740
mining of students cuz I you know I'm

1133
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:07,660
not a Luddite look we're using this

1134
00:43:09,450 --> 00:43:08,050
technique

1135
00:43:11,130 --> 00:43:09,460
right now if there wasn't for this

1136
00:43:12,720 --> 00:43:11,140
internet and all this stuff I would add

1137
00:43:14,070 --> 00:43:12,730
a lot hard time right in the book and I

1138
00:43:16,700 --> 00:43:14,080
wouldn't be able to share it and sell it

1139
00:43:19,020 --> 00:43:16,710
like I am so you know I'm not saying

1140
00:43:21,630 --> 00:43:19,030
destroy the whole technology you know

1141
00:43:23,550 --> 00:43:21,640
bad tech I'm not saying that but we got

1142
00:43:26,970 --> 00:43:23,560
to find out if we're gonna use it at all

1143
00:43:28,530 --> 00:43:26,980
and used to be ethically so you know I

1144
00:43:30,930 --> 00:43:28,540
know that this type of tech you know it

1145
00:43:32,970 --> 00:43:30,940
has to do some kind of data gathering

1146
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:32,980
just to keep itself up game you know

1147
00:43:36,180 --> 00:43:35,050
meantime yeah obviously there's a limit

1148
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:36,190
there but when we start talking about

1149
00:43:40,110 --> 00:43:38,410
personal and student data it needs to be

1150
00:43:43,020 --> 00:43:40,120
stuff like if you're talking about

1151
00:43:44,970 --> 00:43:43,030
bio-data psychometric data this should

1152
00:43:47,130 --> 00:43:44,980
be stuff that's classified as a medical

1153
00:43:48,720 --> 00:43:47,140
record protected by HIPAA right

1154
00:43:50,970 --> 00:43:48,730
shouldn't be able to be trading it

1155
00:43:53,850 --> 00:43:50,980
around and making products off and you

1156
00:43:55,650 --> 00:43:53,860
know creating policy baseline okay to

1157
00:43:58,380 --> 00:43:55,660
the extent that some of that might have

1158
00:44:00,390 --> 00:43:58,390
to sit its way through to the extent

1159
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:00,400
that we want to you know use some of

1160
00:44:04,380 --> 00:44:02,170
these technologies we should at least

1161
00:44:06,330 --> 00:44:04,390
have a right to be forgotten this is a

1162
00:44:08,550 --> 00:44:06,340
law that certain states are looking at

1163
00:44:11,190 --> 00:44:08,560
and we're basically you know if you want

1164
00:44:13,470 --> 00:44:11,200
a company that collects your cookies or

1165
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:13,480
you can say hey I want you to get rid of

1166
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:15,370
that or I don't want this on the web and

1167
00:44:18,240 --> 00:44:16,810
well now we know this stuff can take its

1168
00:44:21,390 --> 00:44:18,250
own life once it gets out there but

1169
00:44:25,020 --> 00:44:21,400
right some Avenue work again locally and

1170
00:44:27,230 --> 00:44:25,030
individually we can control our data for

1171
00:44:30,510 --> 00:44:27,240
ourselves and not have other people

1172
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:30,520
using it for profit things like that all

1173
00:44:34,260 --> 00:44:32,410
right so those those are the first three

1174
00:44:36,990 --> 00:44:34,270
and then the last two basically have to

1175
00:44:39,150 --> 00:44:37,000
do with curriculum those first three are

1176
00:44:40,410 --> 00:44:39,160
more about method philosophy and

1177
00:44:42,180 --> 00:44:40,420
governance this year more about

1178
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:42,190
curriculum

1179
00:44:46,410 --> 00:44:44,650
so I want to go back to the Trivium and

1180
00:44:47,580 --> 00:44:46,420
the Trivium you know the classical

1181
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:47,590
liberal arts you know we could add to

1182
00:44:51,780 --> 00:44:50,170
quadrivium in there but I think that the

1183
00:44:53,700 --> 00:44:51,790
ancients always did the Trivium before

1184
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:53,710
the quadrivium because the Trivium is a

1185
00:44:57,630 --> 00:44:55,690
study of the word quadrivium is tell you

1186
00:44:59,160 --> 00:44:57,640
of the number so you know you have to

1187
00:45:01,860 --> 00:44:59,170
have quality before quantity you can't

1188
00:45:03,930 --> 00:45:01,870
quantify nothingness right you know 1 or

1189
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:03,940
2 is an abstraction lets you attach it

1190
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:06,130
to something like weight height or the

1191
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:08,170
other thing is you know most of the

1192
00:45:12,570 --> 00:45:10,050
world whether you're a scientist or not

1193
00:45:16,070 --> 00:45:12,580
language is the primary mode through

1194
00:45:19,350 --> 00:45:16,080
which we make our way through society so

1195
00:45:22,770 --> 00:45:19,360
the classical Trivium method had three

1196
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:22,780
parts okay that's grammar logic and

1197
00:45:26,210 --> 00:45:24,210
rhetoric

1198
00:45:28,820 --> 00:45:26,220
my book goes into detail about how those

1199
00:45:31,030 --> 00:45:28,830
are those terms and whatever you're

1200
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:31,040
thinking right now based on maybe your

1201
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:34,050
compulsory American education might be

1202
00:45:39,890 --> 00:45:37,530
very simplified or dumbed down versions

1203
00:45:41,780 --> 00:45:39,900
of what the classical philosophers would

1204
00:45:44,150 --> 00:45:41,790
have understood by it okay but it's

1205
00:45:45,890 --> 00:45:44,160
essentially the art of how to think

1206
00:45:47,660 --> 00:45:45,900
instead of what to think right general

1207
00:45:50,150 --> 00:45:47,670
grammar is the art of basically

1208
00:45:52,190 --> 00:45:50,160
identifying things giving them names and

1209
00:45:53,930 --> 00:45:52,200
that creates you know an inductive

1210
00:45:56,450 --> 00:45:53,940
process where you can find patterns

1211
00:45:58,460 --> 00:45:56,460
okay formal logic is basically where we

1212
00:45:59,900 --> 00:45:58,470
can deduce truth based on what we've

1213
00:46:02,180 --> 00:45:59,910
observed what we've named been

1214
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:02,190
identified okay and based on formal

1215
00:46:05,450 --> 00:46:03,810
logic right where you can centrally find

1216
00:46:06,829 --> 00:46:05,460
contradictions in our own files we can

1217
00:46:08,780 --> 00:46:06,839
find contradictions in our own thought

1218
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:08,790
and we can think for ourselves right and

1219
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:10,890
we can sift through all the data that's

1220
00:46:14,660 --> 00:46:12,570
out there not necessarily have to have

1221
00:46:16,670 --> 00:46:14,670
authority tell you stuff you know I

1222
00:46:19,310 --> 00:46:16,680
should maybe segue to emphasize it's not

1223
00:46:20,750 --> 00:46:19,320
in the booklet there is no better school

1224
00:46:22,730 --> 00:46:20,760
of learning than the school of

1225
00:46:24,770 --> 00:46:22,740
experience I know that Benjamin Franklin

1226
00:46:26,240 --> 00:46:24,780
says that it's an expensive school if

1227
00:46:28,700 --> 00:46:26,250
for fools you don't have any other

1228
00:46:30,710 --> 00:46:28,710
abstract knowledge or training outside

1229
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:30,720
of that but dumping a bunch of

1230
00:46:36,380 --> 00:46:34,050
information into your head based on your

1231
00:46:38,359 --> 00:46:36,390
teacher or whatever the syllabus says

1232
00:46:40,730 --> 00:46:38,369
you need to remember and then just try

1233
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:40,740
to your rote memorizing that it's not

1234
00:46:44,750 --> 00:46:43,290
the same thing as having an

1235
00:46:47,329 --> 00:46:44,760
understanding where you can apply it in

1236
00:46:48,380 --> 00:46:47,339
your own daily life right now what

1237
00:46:50,750 --> 00:46:48,390
you're probably doing right now if

1238
00:46:52,130 --> 00:46:50,760
you're checking out this podcast so that

1239
00:46:54,829 --> 00:46:52,140
should be grounded though and things

1240
00:46:56,900 --> 00:46:54,839
like history and civics not social

1241
00:46:59,260 --> 00:46:56,910
studies ok social studies is like this

1242
00:47:02,960 --> 00:46:59,270
amorphous thing isn't grounded in any

1243
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:02,970
well first causes which is my last point

1244
00:47:08,510 --> 00:47:06,810
right it's a metaphysical curriculum so

1245
00:47:11,390 --> 00:47:08,520
we know history meaning right we should

1246
00:47:12,890 --> 00:47:11,400
know like the who what where when and

1247
00:47:14,720 --> 00:47:12,900
why of how we got here a lot of the

1248
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:14,730
stuff I talked about David just like

1249
00:47:18,740 --> 00:47:16,770
what we talked about with eugenics if

1250
00:47:20,510 --> 00:47:18,750
you want to know where we're going and

1251
00:47:22,099 --> 00:47:20,520
you know we're all on this river of time

1252
00:47:23,540 --> 00:47:22,109
we can't get off it and we're moving

1253
00:47:25,070 --> 00:47:23,550
forward together and we got to make

1254
00:47:26,510 --> 00:47:25,080
decisions about how it's going forward

1255
00:47:27,890 --> 00:47:26,520
well if you wanna know where we're going

1256
00:47:29,660 --> 00:47:27,900
we have to know where we came from and

1257
00:47:31,099 --> 00:47:29,670
if you could graph that on a line you

1258
00:47:32,329 --> 00:47:31,109
could see the angle and it's moving

1259
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:32,339
towards and you can see stuff like hey

1260
00:47:36,140 --> 00:47:34,530
this looks like that eugenics stuff from

1261
00:47:36,710 --> 00:47:36,150
before I don't think I want to do that

1262
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:36,720
okay

1263
00:47:39,950 --> 00:47:38,010
civics is giving you

1264
00:47:41,950 --> 00:47:39,960
specific tools to apply grammar logic

1265
00:47:44,240 --> 00:47:41,960
and rhetoric to actually wade through

1266
00:47:47,240 --> 00:47:44,250
the public sphere right and that means

1267
00:47:49,250 --> 00:47:47,250
being able to handle yourself right at

1268
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:49,260
the local school board understanding

1269
00:47:53,300 --> 00:47:50,850
your state laws local laws you know

1270
00:47:55,310 --> 00:47:53,310
getting out there and being you know an

1271
00:47:57,050 --> 00:47:55,320
active citizen and activist that

1272
00:47:58,820 --> 00:47:57,060
understands you know how the law works

1273
00:48:00,380 --> 00:47:58,830
right you know I mean even you know

1274
00:48:03,230 --> 00:48:00,390
there's once upon a time when there was

1275
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:03,240
no bar system there was no jde you know

1276
00:48:06,890 --> 00:48:04,770
at Lincoln went to a law school I've

1277
00:48:09,050 --> 00:48:06,900
done pro se stuff in one you know so I

1278
00:48:12,050 --> 00:48:09,060
mean you know learning how the

1279
00:48:14,060 --> 00:48:12,060
mechanisms of our public system works

1280
00:48:16,340 --> 00:48:14,070
based on the history of how it came

1281
00:48:18,530 --> 00:48:16,350
about okay that needs to be grounded in

1282
00:48:21,140 --> 00:48:18,540
the last principle which is curriculum

1283
00:48:23,900 --> 00:48:21,150
of consciousness studies that basically

1284
00:48:26,750 --> 00:48:23,910
means metaphysics okay so what I came to

1285
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:26,760
find is that you know one of the things

1286
00:48:31,010 --> 00:48:28,650
that's driving the transhumanist agenda

1287
00:48:32,510 --> 00:48:31,020
here is you know empiricism the

1288
00:48:34,460 --> 00:48:32,520
empirical method and then you know

1289
00:48:37,090 --> 00:48:34,470
leading into skepticism and then

1290
00:48:40,090 --> 00:48:37,100
performance identity

1291
00:48:43,810 --> 00:48:40,100
well the thing with empiricism is that

1292
00:48:46,030 --> 00:48:43,820
you can only measure so much right even

1293
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:46,040
if you get 99 points in accuracy right

1294
00:48:49,450 --> 00:48:47,570
that's the nature of induction you get a

1295
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:49,460
sample you can never measure the total

1296
00:48:53,140 --> 00:48:51,530
you can only measure the sample so no

1297
00:48:54,190 --> 00:48:53,150
matter how accurate is there's always a

1298
00:48:56,830 --> 00:48:54,200
piece missing so you can never know the

1299
00:48:58,330 --> 00:48:56,840
absolute truth so that means at that

1300
00:49:00,430 --> 00:48:58,340
point you have to make a decision do you

1301
00:49:01,870 --> 00:49:00,440
want to be a pragmatist which leads to

1302
00:49:03,910 --> 00:49:01,880
performance identity which leads to

1303
00:49:05,710 --> 00:49:03,920
transhumanism which means that there is

1304
00:49:07,690 --> 00:49:05,720
no truth here identity there's nothing

1305
00:49:09,630 --> 00:49:07,700
grounded to what is a human being

1306
00:49:12,070 --> 00:49:09,640
you are no different than another

1307
00:49:13,570 --> 00:49:12,080
corporate material another commodity

1308
00:49:16,030 --> 00:49:13,580
that can be manufactured and produced

1309
00:49:17,950 --> 00:49:16,040
and interface with electronic devices

1310
00:49:20,140 --> 00:49:17,960
you're no different than that you're

1311
00:49:21,580 --> 00:49:20,150
just all that so much smush you can

1312
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:21,590
either take that wear out when you get

1313
00:49:25,210 --> 00:49:23,090
to that place where right your

1314
00:49:27,310 --> 00:49:25,220
empiricism reaches its limitations or

1315
00:49:30,130 --> 00:49:27,320
you can go back to the classical world

1316
00:49:31,720 --> 00:49:30,140
of metaphysics right New Age stuff that

1317
00:49:35,290 --> 00:49:31,730
gets in all sorts of like supernatural

1318
00:49:37,030 --> 00:49:35,300
stuff different layers of deities and

1319
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:37,040
platonic forms and stuff it doesn't have

1320
00:49:41,650 --> 00:49:39,890
to be that complex it just means that

1321
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:41,660
there are some first principles some

1322
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:43,970
first causes that we need to base our

1323
00:49:48,010 --> 00:49:45,770
empiricism on so that we don't go into

1324
00:49:50,050 --> 00:49:48,020
rabid scepticism and performance

1325
00:49:52,780 --> 00:49:50,060
identity this means stuff like

1326
00:49:55,390 --> 00:49:52,790
transcendent values okay like a priori

1327
00:49:57,130 --> 00:49:55,400
values meaning like everybody has the

1328
00:49:59,800 --> 00:49:57,140
right to make their own decisions about

1329
00:50:01,330 --> 00:49:59,810
how they want to live a priori meaning

1330
00:50:02,890 --> 00:50:01,340
prior to what I measure or not to

1331
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:02,900
measure and a bunch of people that go

1332
00:50:06,180 --> 00:50:04,490
oh you're deserving of something but

1333
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:06,190
you're not cuz I didn't measure you

1334
00:50:11,590 --> 00:50:08,810
before I measure it before I see or

1335
00:50:13,060 --> 00:50:11,600
observe somebody I can say yes you have

1336
00:50:14,530 --> 00:50:13,070
value in that you have the right to

1337
00:50:16,930 --> 00:50:14,540
making decisions about how you want to

1338
00:50:18,550 --> 00:50:16,940
live that's based on stuff like natural

1339
00:50:21,130 --> 00:50:18,560
law which comes from these metaphysical

1340
00:50:23,170 --> 00:50:21,140
terms like the Greeks had two logos the

1341
00:50:24,700 --> 00:50:23,180
Chinese had the dow the hindus had the

1342
00:50:26,980 --> 00:50:24,710
earth the you know a layer that will

1343
00:50:28,420 --> 00:50:26,990
become the Dharma and Buddhism if you go

1344
00:50:31,270 --> 00:50:28,430
back to the Persians they had the ASSA

1345
00:50:34,510 --> 00:50:31,280
and these are all ideas that reality is

1346
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:34,520
grounded in truth and that this truth is

1347
00:50:39,580 --> 00:50:36,650
transcendent and that based on that

1348
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:39,590
truth you can actually know things a

1349
00:50:43,510 --> 00:50:41,570
priori and that you can deduce things

1350
00:50:45,820 --> 00:50:43,520
and put things in their proper order you

1351
00:50:47,290 --> 00:50:45,830
can have right living in other words the

1352
00:50:49,570 --> 00:50:47,300
golden rule right if we were all

1353
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:49,580
basically put here by the same principle

1354
00:50:52,570 --> 00:50:50,330
we're

1355
00:50:54,990 --> 00:50:52,580
which puts us in a unified order and

1356
00:50:56,950 --> 00:50:55,000
none of us asked to be here

1357
00:50:58,870 --> 00:50:56,960
transcendently we ended up here then we

1358
00:51:00,580 --> 00:50:58,880
all are on an equal playing ground we

1359
00:51:01,810 --> 00:51:00,590
all have the same right to make her own

1360
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:01,820
decisions and this is the philosophy

1361
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:03,770
that should guide how we're gonna play

1362
00:51:09,490 --> 00:51:05,330
with this technology if we're gonna mess

1363
00:51:12,310 --> 00:51:09,500
with it wow man that is such a great

1364
00:51:15,810 --> 00:51:12,320
breakdown of some of the solutions and

1365
00:51:18,970 --> 00:51:15,820
I'm with you there's definitely a lot of

1366
00:51:20,470 --> 00:51:18,980
logistical infrastructural things like

1367
00:51:23,350 --> 00:51:20,480
the first few bullet points you

1368
00:51:25,900 --> 00:51:23,360
mentioned there and then yes the last

1369
00:51:29,350 --> 00:51:25,910
two are the things we really can bring

1370
00:51:30,790 --> 00:51:29,360
into our kids lives firsthand I mean

1371
00:51:33,490 --> 00:51:30,800
let's assume there are a lot of parents

1372
00:51:36,220 --> 00:51:33,500
out there listening who have kids in the

1373
00:51:38,770 --> 00:51:36,230
grade school pipeline now they probably

1374
00:51:41,020 --> 00:51:38,780
can't do much about that the kids have

1375
00:51:43,020 --> 00:51:41,030
to go to school they're probably working

1376
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:43,030
a job so they can't do a home schooling

1377
00:51:48,490 --> 00:51:44,210
situation

1378
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:48,500
are there specific tools for say

1379
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:51,650
developing sound metaphysics or Trivium

1380
00:51:56,140 --> 00:51:54,290
tools that are geared for younger

1381
00:51:58,120 --> 00:51:56,150
children that you know about that people

1382
00:52:00,100 --> 00:51:58,130
could maybe start implementing at home

1383
00:52:03,340 --> 00:52:00,110
to offset some of the damage of the

1384
00:52:04,660 --> 00:52:03,350
public school system well so you know I

1385
00:52:06,430 --> 00:52:04,670
actually want to work on that I actually

1386
00:52:08,130 --> 00:52:06,440
want to put something together I like

1387
00:52:11,710 --> 00:52:08,140
that you know I've been really really

1388
00:52:13,390 --> 00:52:11,720
ring my own curriculum you know in my

1389
00:52:16,690 --> 00:52:13,400
own academic training I didn't get all

1390
00:52:19,450 --> 00:52:16,700
that I went down the opposite of the

1391
00:52:20,590 --> 00:52:19,460
classical Trivium the best way I could

1392
00:52:23,050 --> 00:52:20,600
put it would be a philosophy called

1393
00:52:24,610 --> 00:52:23,060
deconstruction that's largely what I got

1394
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:24,620
so I had to work my way back to this

1395
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:26,210
kind of on my own using all the things

1396
00:52:30,100 --> 00:52:27,650
I'm describing right

1397
00:52:32,290 --> 00:52:30,110
I largely taught myself this based on

1398
00:52:33,790 --> 00:52:32,300
you know digging around got Urban's

1399
00:52:36,220 --> 00:52:33,800
logos media and you know he's got some

1400
00:52:37,990 --> 00:52:36,230
good resources you can use Chris likes

1401
00:52:41,020 --> 00:52:38,000
Trivium by the wooden books is the

1402
00:52:44,050 --> 00:52:41,030
publisher there's one by Miriam Joseph

1403
00:52:45,820 --> 00:52:44,060
that I have it's a little dense I think

1404
00:52:48,670 --> 00:52:45,830
is a good crash course if you want to

1405
00:52:50,710 --> 00:52:48,680
just like classical learning and history

1406
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:50,720
of philosophy and metaphysics and stuff

1407
00:52:55,750 --> 00:52:52,850
like that there is a guy not in the

1408
00:52:57,940 --> 00:52:55,760
conspiracy stuff or nothing I know of he

1409
00:52:59,680 --> 00:52:57,950
teaches high school at a classical

1410
00:53:02,530 --> 00:52:59,690
school and he's got these little

1411
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:02,540
lectures his name drew score I love his

1412
00:53:05,650 --> 00:53:03,770
stuff because it's for a high

1413
00:53:08,020 --> 00:53:05,660
school class but it's dense and so like

1414
00:53:10,390 --> 00:53:08,030
you call it like it's accessible for

1415
00:53:11,350 --> 00:53:10,400
anybody I like to you'll put him on

1416
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:11,360
sometimes this when I'm trying to

1417
00:53:15,700 --> 00:53:13,010
refresh like bullet points on a flies

1418
00:53:18,550 --> 00:53:15,710
for up on foggy and you can click those

1419
00:53:20,110 --> 00:53:18,560
and just watch those his Christian guy

1420
00:53:22,450 --> 00:53:20,120
you know so he's gonna give you history

1421
00:53:23,890 --> 00:53:22,460
religion too but you know that's

1422
00:53:25,300 --> 00:53:23,900
important stuff too that should be part

1423
00:53:27,370 --> 00:53:25,310
of what we study and you know we can

1424
00:53:29,410 --> 00:53:27,380
have a discussion about what are the

1425
00:53:31,780 --> 00:53:29,420
first causes of these these things like

1426
00:53:34,300 --> 00:53:31,790
the Dow OCS Lewis you know refer to it

1427
00:53:36,390 --> 00:53:34,310
as the diagnose Christian Christians

1428
00:53:39,070 --> 00:53:36,400
would maybe rather prefer the term logos

1429
00:53:41,020 --> 00:53:39,080
so those are some good online sources

1430
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:41,030
you can play with there's a I think the

1431
00:53:45,580 --> 00:53:42,890
wooden books is a rather simplified

1432
00:53:47,650 --> 00:53:45,590
version and hopefully one of these days

1433
00:53:51,059 --> 00:53:47,660
I'm gonna put some resources on my

1434
00:53:53,549 --> 00:53:51,069
website school world order dot info

1435
00:53:55,499 --> 00:53:53,559
and maybe make a book out of it but yeah

1436
00:53:56,789 --> 00:53:55,509
yeah can I add something else because

1437
00:53:58,319 --> 00:53:56,799
you mentioned parents and I should say

1438
00:53:59,969 --> 00:53:58,329
this to them another important part of

1439
00:54:01,109 --> 00:53:59,979
this is that parents need to take care

1440
00:54:03,359 --> 00:54:01,119
of their kids parents need to teach

1441
00:54:04,890 --> 00:54:03,369
their kids I don't have kids so I don't

1442
00:54:07,170 --> 00:54:04,900
know what's your parents on how to be

1443
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:07,180
parents but that is one of the main

1444
00:54:12,359 --> 00:54:08,890
things there because see a lot of

1445
00:54:13,319 --> 00:54:12,369
parents think that oh well your teachers

1446
00:54:15,029 --> 00:54:13,329
are the experts and so are the

1447
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:15,039
administrate so I can kind of defer and

1448
00:54:18,660 --> 00:54:16,690
then if they've got really fancy

1449
00:54:20,459 --> 00:54:18,670
technology technology is the smartest

1450
00:54:22,769 --> 00:54:20,469
stuff in the world right technology is

1451
00:54:25,140 --> 00:54:22,779
infallible so if I got experts with

1452
00:54:27,599 --> 00:54:25,150
technology I can kind of file out and

1453
00:54:28,709 --> 00:54:27,609
let my kid do their own thing and I

1454
00:54:30,839 --> 00:54:28,719
don't have to go to the school board

1455
00:54:32,789 --> 00:54:30,849
meetings and things like that but that's

1456
00:54:34,199 --> 00:54:32,799
not you know I mean what you said is

1457
00:54:35,459 --> 00:54:34,209
walking parents you do on your own well

1458
00:54:37,199 --> 00:54:35,469
the parents can do on their own is

1459
00:54:39,209 --> 00:54:37,209
instill what are the values you want the

1460
00:54:40,650 --> 00:54:39,219
kids to have do you have values you want

1461
00:54:42,509 --> 00:54:40,660
kids to have do you don't want other

1462
00:54:43,979 --> 00:54:42,519
people to replace them with all right I

1463
00:54:45,839 --> 00:54:43,989
hope that they're based on things like

1464
00:54:47,279 --> 00:54:45,849
the golden rule you know what I mean and

1465
00:54:50,009 --> 00:54:47,289
you know the other thing is you see it

1466
00:54:51,479 --> 00:54:50,019
in the everyday world go to the grocery

1467
00:54:53,999 --> 00:54:51,489
store or something how often do you see

1468
00:54:55,529 --> 00:54:54,009
the kids you know misbehaving or there's

1469
00:54:57,059 --> 00:54:55,539
just hyper or something they give them

1470
00:54:58,799 --> 00:54:57,069
the device they give them the device

1471
00:55:00,630 --> 00:54:58,809
because it's like you get out of my way

1472
00:55:03,209 --> 00:55:00,640
and go mess with this like you're

1473
00:55:05,939 --> 00:55:03,219
letting the devices and basically the

1474
00:55:08,519 --> 00:55:05,949
government be the parent and you can't

1475
00:55:09,689 --> 00:55:08,529
do that if you can't do that everything

1476
00:55:12,949 --> 00:55:09,699
I said doesn't matter

1477
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:12,959
amen men amen I really love these

1478
00:55:16,829 --> 00:55:15,249
subjects because I'm kind of at that

1479
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:16,839
stage of life where I'm either gonna

1480
00:55:22,380 --> 00:55:19,930
have kids or I'm not and probably I am

1481
00:55:24,959 --> 00:55:22,390
and so a lot of these things come up and

1482
00:55:26,579 --> 00:55:24,969
I think about how extreme do I want to

1483
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:26,589
go given the fact that I already have

1484
00:55:32,779 --> 00:55:28,690
the job I have so this stuff is gonna be

1485
00:55:35,130 --> 00:55:32,789
in their sphere of influence and I think

1486
00:55:37,589 --> 00:55:35,140
homeschooling feels like too much

1487
00:55:39,359 --> 00:55:37,599
pressure so I also think maybe I should

1488
00:55:41,219 --> 00:55:39,369
send my kids to a public school because

1489
00:55:43,410 --> 00:55:41,229
I want them to understand you have to

1490
00:55:46,410 --> 00:55:43,420
deal with all different kinds of people

1491
00:55:49,079 --> 00:55:46,420
and then I can offset that at home with

1492
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:49,089
various techniques of my own I mean I've

1493
00:55:53,069 --> 00:55:51,249
routinely said that I think the single

1494
00:55:56,670 --> 00:55:53,079
most important thing I could teach my

1495
00:55:59,069 --> 00:55:56,680
kids is to optimize their expression and

1496
00:56:01,769 --> 00:55:59,079
language so that they can get through a

1497
00:56:04,069 --> 00:56:01,779
lot of various situations by expressing

1498
00:56:07,009 --> 00:56:04,079
themselves succinctly and act

1499
00:56:08,779 --> 00:56:07,019
and this seems kind of similar to the

1500
00:56:11,509 --> 00:56:08,789
Trivium of course broken up into grammar

1501
00:56:14,479 --> 00:56:11,519
logic and rhetoric and even in the book

1502
00:56:16,489 --> 00:56:14,489
you say these are not subjects in the

1503
00:56:18,829 --> 00:56:16,499
classical sense at all they're methods

1504
00:56:20,599 --> 00:56:18,839
of dealing with subjects and I think

1505
00:56:22,789 --> 00:56:20,609
that's really wise I mean that's really

1506
00:56:24,679 --> 00:56:22,799
the crux of what I was trying to get to

1507
00:56:26,709 --> 00:56:24,689
with with those kind of thoughts is like

1508
00:56:30,439 --> 00:56:26,719
I just want to teach my kids how to

1509
00:56:32,449 --> 00:56:30,449
navigate reality without necessarily

1510
00:56:34,309 --> 00:56:32,459
taking them out of reality I don't want

1511
00:56:35,959 --> 00:56:34,319
to have the weird kid who doesn't know

1512
00:56:37,669 --> 00:56:35,969
how to communicate with other people

1513
00:56:40,339 --> 00:56:37,679
because they went to some airy-fairy

1514
00:56:41,779 --> 00:56:40,349
Southern California school you know that

1515
00:56:44,299 --> 00:56:41,789
I mean there's concerns there I also

1516
00:56:46,189 --> 00:56:44,309
don't want them to have to be forced to

1517
00:56:48,049 --> 00:56:46,199
get certain vaccinations to attend

1518
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:48,059
public school I don't want them to have

1519
00:56:52,189 --> 00:56:50,130
these technologies in the classroom that

1520
00:56:54,979 --> 00:56:52,199
are doing active harm regardless of what

1521
00:56:57,559 --> 00:56:54,989
I teach them at home so these are real

1522
00:57:00,079 --> 00:56:57,569
concerns but I've always kind of thought

1523
00:57:02,269 --> 00:57:00,089
the best approach is one foot in one

1524
00:57:04,759 --> 00:57:02,279
foot out because if you're all the way

1525
00:57:05,749 --> 00:57:04,769
out then you know good luck and if

1526
00:57:09,679 --> 00:57:05,759
you're all the way in you're also

1527
00:57:11,959 --> 00:57:09,689
screwed and I guess I would also ask you

1528
00:57:14,390 --> 00:57:11,969
if you were a parent what do you think

1529
00:57:17,539 --> 00:57:14,400
of these things like home schooling or

1530
00:57:20,029 --> 00:57:17,549
Montessori schools or these other types

1531
00:57:22,009 --> 00:57:20,039
of schools that obviously the stuff

1532
00:57:24,799 --> 00:57:22,019
we're talking about isn't bleeding into

1533
00:57:28,429 --> 00:57:24,809
them necessarily but they also seemed so

1534
00:57:30,529 --> 00:57:28,439
far off the reservation that when your

1535
00:57:32,239 --> 00:57:30,539
kid gets through some of that they might

1536
00:57:33,949 --> 00:57:32,249
have a hard time integrating into our

1537
00:57:37,999 --> 00:57:33,959
general society they might feel like

1538
00:57:42,319 --> 00:57:38,009
they were sold some weird fringe

1539
00:57:44,419 --> 00:57:42,329
ideologies that necessarily mesh that

1540
00:57:47,630 --> 00:57:44,429
well with the general population is it's

1541
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:47,640
it's a weird thing to balance but what

1542
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:49,410
are your thoughts on just other forms of

1543
00:57:55,279 --> 00:57:52,170
schooling that are not public school but

1544
00:57:57,019 --> 00:57:55,289
places we would send our kids okay yeah

1545
00:57:58,549 --> 00:57:57,029
I like what you said I really think it's

1546
00:58:00,410 --> 00:57:58,559
a good philosophy one foot in one foot

1547
00:58:02,179 --> 00:58:00,420
out in other words like this is the

1548
00:58:03,769 --> 00:58:02,189
world we live in right I mean like here

1549
00:58:05,870 --> 00:58:03,779
one foot in one foot out right now

1550
00:58:07,459 --> 00:58:05,880
you're posting on YouTube and thing I

1551
00:58:09,679 --> 00:58:07,469
mean yeah you're kind of feeding the

1552
00:58:11,419 --> 00:58:09,689
beast at one level but we're also right

1553
00:58:13,759 --> 00:58:11,429
we're not we're talking against to be so

1554
00:58:15,380 --> 00:58:13,769
it mean it's kind of like that me the

1555
00:58:17,750 --> 00:58:15,390
wife and I can't have kids so but if we

1556
00:58:19,370 --> 00:58:17,760
could you know I think I would guard

1557
00:58:21,350 --> 00:58:19,380
do what you're saying and I think I

1558
00:58:24,110 --> 00:58:21,360
would keep in public school you know

1559
00:58:26,330 --> 00:58:24,120
could you do homeschooling wrong with

1560
00:58:29,330 --> 00:58:26,340
that either if you do homeschooling

1561
00:58:32,540 --> 00:58:29,340
please be sure that you don't apply for

1562
00:58:34,610 --> 00:58:32,550
tax credits for tuition or anything like

1563
00:58:36,290 --> 00:58:34,620
a voucher or education savings accounts

1564
00:58:37,940 --> 00:58:36,300
because as I mentioned that's largely

1565
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:37,950
going to mean that you have to follow

1566
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:40,170
the exes standards the federal standards

1567
00:58:46,070 --> 00:58:42,930
and if you do that largely what they're

1568
00:58:48,590 --> 00:58:46,080
gonna do is make you use not just the

1569
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:48,600
methods and the outcomes but down the

1570
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:50,730
pipe it'll be that you have to use the

1571
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:52,410
software you have to use the adapter

1572
00:58:55,820 --> 00:58:54,210
learning software you have to also have

1573
00:58:58,280 --> 00:58:55,830
some biofeedback stuff right so that you

1574
00:59:00,230 --> 00:58:58,290
have to meet all those requirements and

1575
00:59:02,690 --> 00:59:00,240
you know most homeschool is by the way

1576
00:59:04,700 --> 00:59:02,700
doing they are online and they do

1577
00:59:08,300 --> 00:59:04,710
incorporate much of the stuff we're

1578
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:08,310
talking okay so that's the end of the

1579
00:59:12,470 --> 00:59:09,690
date I don't think there's a whole lot

1580
00:59:14,090 --> 00:59:12,480
difference in terms of curriculum right

1581
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:14,100
unless you were to go totally private or

1582
00:59:18,050 --> 00:59:15,810
parochial then it is very different

1583
00:59:20,180 --> 00:59:18,060
because then you do get classical stuff

1584
00:59:21,860 --> 00:59:20,190
you will get formal logic you will get

1585
00:59:25,030 --> 00:59:21,870
quadrant and trim you will get history

1586
00:59:27,010 --> 00:59:25,040
of philosophy you'll get all that stuff

1587
00:59:28,780 --> 00:59:27,020
I don't know a lot about Montessori

1588
00:59:30,130 --> 00:59:28,790
School

1589
00:59:32,620 --> 00:59:30,140
you know my wife has mentioned it before

1590
00:59:36,370 --> 00:59:32,630
and I just never it never came up in the

1591
00:59:37,900 --> 00:59:36,380
research I don't know what its statuses

1592
00:59:40,300 --> 00:59:37,910
I think it's a magnet school but I don't

1593
00:59:42,220 --> 00:59:40,310
know public private what its status is

1594
00:59:45,010 --> 00:59:42,230
my only concerns about that would be

1595
00:59:48,100 --> 00:59:45,020
like the governance issues but I mean in

1596
00:59:49,660 --> 00:59:48,110
terms of curriculum unless it's at

1597
00:59:50,980 --> 00:59:49,670
parochial school you know like a

1598
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:50,990
religious school or Catholic school or

1599
00:59:54,599 --> 00:59:52,450
something like that

1600
00:59:56,870 --> 00:59:54,609
you're largely any pretty much the same

1601
00:59:59,490 --> 00:59:56,880
creaking there's ways where people can

1602
01:00:01,170 --> 00:59:59,500
there's some flexibility there but it's

1603
01:00:02,670 --> 01:00:01,180
largely the same I should say you know

1604
01:00:05,910 --> 01:00:02,680
same level by the way you know there are

1605
01:00:09,030 --> 01:00:05,920
also classical schools that are charter

1606
01:00:10,740 --> 01:00:09,040
and public private I haven't looked

1607
01:00:12,630 --> 01:00:10,750
deeply in those when I would be suspect

1608
01:00:15,810 --> 01:00:12,640
to those two because I imagine that even

1609
01:00:18,510 --> 01:00:15,820
if they can maintain a lot of the

1610
01:00:21,839 --> 01:00:18,520
traditional curriculum they still have

1611
01:00:24,300 --> 01:00:21,849
to fit in some of the other new methods

1612
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:24,310
and so you know with the classical

1613
01:00:28,020 --> 01:00:25,930
learning you're probably gonna get a lot

1614
01:00:31,770 --> 01:00:28,030
of social justice type you know social

1615
01:00:33,750 --> 01:00:31,780
studies mixed in with it I think public

1616
01:00:36,690 --> 01:00:33,760
school or the home school is what I

1617
01:00:37,650 --> 01:00:36,700
would personally do and it's easy to say

1618
01:00:40,620 --> 01:00:37,660
that when you don't actually have to

1619
01:00:42,510 --> 01:00:40,630
worry about what's happening at otally

1620
01:00:44,190 --> 01:00:42,520
academically abstract you know in terms

1621
01:00:46,349 --> 01:00:44,200
of policies and stuff it's a different

1622
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:46,359
game when you got you know your little

1623
01:00:52,109 --> 01:00:48,490
boy or girl and all the emotions edge to

1624
01:00:53,940 --> 01:00:52,119
it yes well I mean honestly as scary as

1625
01:00:56,910 --> 01:00:53,950
it can be as daunting as it can be to

1626
01:00:58,740 --> 01:00:56,920
kind of weigh all this stuff a part of

1627
01:01:02,089 --> 01:00:58,750
me also thinks if you're just thinking

1628
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:02,099
about it you're already so far ahead of

1629
01:01:07,349 --> 01:01:04,450
most of the people in this society so

1630
01:01:10,109 --> 01:01:07,359
even if you're giving it concern don't

1631
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:10,119
let it completely you know destroy you

1632
01:01:14,780 --> 01:01:12,970
don't let it depress you just realize

1633
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:14,790
that you're already ahead of the game

1634
01:01:19,109 --> 01:01:17,410
even considering these things and

1635
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:19,119
talking with your partner about them so

1636
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:21,010
I don't know that gives me a little bit

1637
01:01:25,260 --> 01:01:23,770
of a silver lining but man so I just

1638
01:01:26,849 --> 01:01:25,270
want to add this real quick too because

1639
01:01:28,589 --> 01:01:26,859
you know that you said the one foot in

1640
01:01:30,839 --> 01:01:28,599
one foot out whichever option you take

1641
01:01:32,940 --> 01:01:30,849
that's the important part which is you

1642
01:01:34,620 --> 01:01:32,950
are in charge or the parent so you say

1643
01:01:36,450 --> 01:01:34,630
would you learn today and you could say

1644
01:01:37,980 --> 01:01:36,460
my dad would tell me stuff like hey why

1645
01:01:39,030 --> 01:01:37,990
didn't they tell you this or why didn't

1646
01:01:40,620 --> 01:01:39,040
they tell you that and tell you about

1647
01:01:42,150 --> 01:01:40,630
what we did the Native American city

1648
01:01:43,859 --> 01:01:42,160
every day I come home there was

1649
01:01:45,210 --> 01:01:43,869
something that was like Oh like I'm

1650
01:01:48,089 --> 01:01:45,220
supposed to question what they taught me

1651
01:01:50,190 --> 01:01:48,099
right and so if you at least do that

1652
01:01:52,260 --> 01:01:50,200
like you said another part that Golden

1653
01:01:54,780 --> 01:01:52,270
Rule is we all have the same you know I

1654
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:54,790
am not one of these precision IDI IQ

1655
01:01:58,200 --> 01:01:56,170
people I really think that you know

1656
01:02:00,450 --> 01:01:58,210
people said I'm smart I really think

1657
01:02:02,069 --> 01:02:00,460
it's just me being as honest as I can

1658
01:02:03,270 --> 01:02:02,079
with what I don't know and just say hey

1659
01:02:04,460 --> 01:02:03,280
why don't I know it and I'm trying to

1660
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:04,470
figure out why I don't know

1661
01:02:08,930 --> 01:02:06,690
and we all have pretty much the same

1662
01:02:11,599 --> 01:02:08,940
capacity to be honest with ourselves and

1663
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:11,609
in that regard you are just as important

1664
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:14,130
as the professor with the PhD and I'll

1665
01:02:18,170 --> 01:02:16,050
tell you how many times you know I go to

1666
01:02:20,060 --> 01:02:18,180
vert I'll read stuff you're synthesizing

1667
01:02:21,589 --> 01:02:20,070
probably one of the people at the

1668
01:02:23,870 --> 01:02:21,599
department's no philosophy problem say

1669
01:02:25,970 --> 01:02:23,880
hey this is right my understanding this

1670
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:25,980
right and it'll your check out or it

1671
01:02:29,900 --> 01:02:27,810
won't but when I start to then

1672
01:02:31,310 --> 01:02:29,910
extrapolate out into other topics and

1673
01:02:33,109 --> 01:02:31,320
make connections they don't know what

1674
01:02:34,010 --> 01:02:33,119
I'm talking about they only know what

1675
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:34,020
they've been taught in their

1676
01:02:40,130 --> 01:02:36,810
specialization that is the product of

1677
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:40,140
any institutional compulsory corporate

1678
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:42,050
whatever any institutional education

1679
01:02:48,050 --> 01:02:46,410
system the opposite of that is this

1680
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:48,060
Trivium method where you think on your

1681
01:02:51,500 --> 01:02:49,770
own you ask your own questions you think

1682
01:02:52,670 --> 01:02:51,510
something and then you think about what

1683
01:02:54,349 --> 01:02:52,680
you thought and you what does that make

1684
01:02:56,839 --> 01:02:54,359
sense is there a contradiction and what

1685
01:02:58,790 --> 01:02:56,849
I thought and you can weed that out and

1686
01:03:01,190 --> 01:02:58,800
you can instill that spirit in your

1687
01:03:04,220 --> 01:03:01,200
child regardless of which system you

1688
01:03:06,740 --> 01:03:04,230
pick boom I love it yes I agree with you

1689
01:03:09,050 --> 01:03:06,750
had no stock in eugenics but even if

1690
01:03:12,770 --> 01:03:09,060
there was some truth to eugenics there's

1691
01:03:16,970 --> 01:03:12,780
always outliers there's always people

1692
01:03:19,030 --> 01:03:16,980
who buck the trends you know these a lot

1693
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:19,040
of times these are you know

1694
01:03:25,250 --> 01:03:21,890
distributions on a grand scale so

1695
01:03:27,380 --> 01:03:25,260
there's no value in teaching people from

1696
01:03:29,750 --> 01:03:27,390
a base level that they're less valuable

1697
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:29,760
than other people it's obviously better

1698
01:03:33,410 --> 01:03:31,050
to teach everyone they're the same

1699
01:03:35,359 --> 01:03:33,420
because this particular person might be

1700
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:35,369
one of those outliers even if there was

1701
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:37,890
a basis and truth which obviously we're

1702
01:03:42,980 --> 01:03:40,290
saying there isn't so regardless it's

1703
01:03:44,510 --> 01:03:42,990
better to just ignore that stuff or at

1704
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:44,520
least actually not ignore it because

1705
01:03:48,710 --> 01:03:46,530
that's how it creeps in but be vigilant

1706
01:03:53,630 --> 01:03:48,720
Lee against an opposed to some of that

1707
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:53,640
kind of stuff hmm awesome well John this

1708
01:03:58,700 --> 01:03:56,490
has been super enlightening we've had

1709
01:04:00,829 --> 01:03:58,710
several guests talk about how the top

1710
01:04:02,780 --> 01:04:00,839
layers of the elite are sort of weeding

1711
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:02,790
out the middle layers the management

1712
01:04:06,829 --> 01:04:04,890
class the ones who implement the agendas

1713
01:04:08,990 --> 01:04:06,839
and instead they're just going straight

1714
01:04:12,290 --> 01:04:09,000
to technology to do that because it'll

1715
01:04:15,170 --> 01:04:12,300
do it way more flawlessly and this seems

1716
01:04:18,350 --> 01:04:15,180
to be as true in education as it is

1717
01:04:19,550 --> 01:04:18,360
anywhere and before we go

1718
01:04:21,140 --> 01:04:19,560
anything else to tell the people about

1719
01:04:23,090 --> 01:04:21,150
getting the book checking out the

1720
01:04:24,380 --> 01:04:23,100
website or following up on some of this

1721
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:24,390
stuff following what you're gonna be

1722
01:04:29,780 --> 01:04:27,450
working on next yeah so you know the

1723
01:04:31,430 --> 01:04:29,790
website is school world order dot info

1724
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:31,440
there's a link to the book trying days

1725
01:04:35,690 --> 01:04:32,970
website you can get it straight from

1726
01:04:37,340 --> 01:04:35,700
there you gotta count with Amazon or

1727
01:04:39,730 --> 01:04:37,350
it's on there it's on Barnes and Nobles

1728
01:04:41,870 --> 01:04:39,740
any of the major distributors I'm now

1729
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:41,880
there's like two days ago I made my

1730
01:04:45,650 --> 01:04:43,650
first social media account which is a

1731
01:04:47,300 --> 01:04:45,660
Twitter so I did my first post on there

1732
01:04:49,340 --> 01:04:47,310
so if you want to follow me on that you

1733
01:04:51,170 --> 01:04:49,350
know how that works you can do that I'll

1734
01:04:53,450 --> 01:04:51,180
send out my articles I'm still writing

1735
01:04:54,980 --> 01:04:53,460
articles a lot of its expanding on the

1736
01:04:57,020 --> 01:04:54,990
book stuff that didn't make it in there

1737
01:04:59,780 --> 01:04:57,030
one of the first things I published was

1738
01:05:01,250 --> 01:04:59,790
some of the stuff about Jose Delgado who

1739
01:05:03,260 --> 01:05:01,260
started the brain computer interfaces

1740
01:05:04,670 --> 01:05:03,270
hice connected skull and bones so do all

1741
01:05:06,230 --> 01:05:04,680
my Twitter that articles there maybe

1742
01:05:07,700 --> 01:05:06,240
that'll give you a taste of you know if

1743
01:05:09,500 --> 01:05:07,710
you want to buy the book right and

1744
01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:09,510
there's excerpts in the website or the

1745
01:05:14,030 --> 01:05:11,730
website also I should mention it's got

1746
01:05:16,580 --> 01:05:14,040
2,000 citations which is are a hundred

1747
01:05:18,140 --> 01:05:16,590
pages of citations if you're somebody

1748
01:05:19,310 --> 01:05:18,150
that likes to check citations if you

1749
01:05:21,830 --> 01:05:19,320
don't hey where do you get that from

1750
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:21,840
while you're reading you can open up in

1751
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:23,250
the back part of the website the

1752
01:05:27,380 --> 01:05:25,410
resources section and then you can just

1753
01:05:28,700 --> 01:05:27,390
follow along with the notes and most of

1754
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:28,710
them are online sources even the

1755
01:05:31,340 --> 01:05:30,210
journals most stuff's online today you

1756
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:31,350
know there's stuff that's print books

1757
01:05:35,300 --> 01:05:33,090
you might have to buy it or something

1758
01:05:37,340 --> 01:05:35,310
but you can pretty much link to anything

1759
01:05:39,650 --> 01:05:37,350
in that book any citations it's all

1760
01:05:41,300 --> 01:05:39,660
footnoted if you wanted to check as you

1761
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:41,310
go so that's interactive and that way

1762
01:05:46,970 --> 01:05:44,610
beautiful beautiful man well you are a

1763
01:05:49,790 --> 01:05:46,980
true master of your domain this is all

1764
01:05:51,980 --> 01:05:49,800
very much appreciative I'm in awe I'm

1765
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:51,990
lucky to get any credit for any of this

1766
01:05:55,790 --> 01:05:53,490
at all because it's all you man but I

1767
01:05:58,250 --> 01:05:55,800
guess like school I get credit for a lot

1768
01:06:01,580 --> 01:05:58,260
of stuff I probably shouldn't so it all

1769
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:01,590
makes sense very cool well keep fighting

1770
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:03,090
the good fight and do take care out

1771
01:06:08,849 --> 01:06:05,610
there yeah thanks for having me man it's

1772
01:06:14,309 --> 01:06:11,609
and boom goes the dynamite dear people

1773
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:14,319
school world order hell of a book hell

1774
01:06:19,829 --> 01:06:17,170
of a topic John is a hell of a guy

1775
01:06:21,359 --> 01:06:19,839
I am definitely happy to have gotten

1776
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:21,369
this one out to you next

1777
01:06:25,890 --> 01:06:23,650
of course it's probably pretty obvious

1778
01:06:27,870 --> 01:06:25,900
at this point but this is another

1779
01:06:30,029 --> 01:06:27,880
interview that was recorded several

1780
01:06:32,339 --> 01:06:30,039
weeks back when we were still in the old

1781
01:06:35,009 --> 01:06:32,349
world but I didn't really feel the need

1782
01:06:37,349 --> 01:06:35,019
to preempt the show to say that this

1783
01:06:40,589 --> 01:06:37,359
time because it is a topic that's a

1784
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:40,599
little more connected anyway in fact

1785
01:06:44,789 --> 01:06:42,130
John messaged me just the other day

1786
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:44,799
about how obviously we didn't talk about

1787
01:06:50,729 --> 01:06:46,930
this coronavirus thing in the interview

1788
01:06:53,069 --> 01:06:50,739
but so much of it is very relevant to

1789
01:06:56,819 --> 01:06:53,079
this current technocratic lockdown and

1790
01:07:00,569 --> 01:06:56,829
the big plan to connect your biometrics

1791
01:07:03,660 --> 01:07:00,579
to a form of ID and of course get them

1792
01:07:05,779 --> 01:07:03,670
while they're young is always in play so

1793
01:07:08,249 --> 01:07:05,789
this is a timely one and it's relevant

1794
01:07:11,309 --> 01:07:08,259
it's just weird to think about the fact

1795
01:07:13,049 --> 01:07:11,319
that when I recorded this I thought that

1796
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:13,059
night I could still take my wife out to

1797
01:07:18,269 --> 01:07:15,730
dinner I did want to add though that

1798
01:07:20,069 --> 01:07:18,279
John wrote a really great piece and I

1799
01:07:22,859 --> 01:07:20,079
think I'm gonna link it to you in the

1800
01:07:24,749 --> 01:07:22,869
show notes that adds a coronavirus

1801
01:07:28,140 --> 01:07:24,759
context to everything we talked about

1802
01:07:29,910 --> 01:07:28,150
today it's about two pages but let me

1803
01:07:32,519 --> 01:07:29,920
just get it started for you he writes

1804
01:07:34,769 --> 01:07:32,529
the Department of Education 'he's new

1805
01:07:36,859 --> 01:07:34,779
proposed rules for federal regulations

1806
01:07:39,839 --> 01:07:36,869
of distance education and innovation

1807
01:07:42,299 --> 01:07:39,849
will effectively open the floodgates for

1808
01:07:44,130 --> 01:07:42,309
online education corporations to put

1809
01:07:46,289 --> 01:07:44,140
public brick-and-mortar schools out of

1810
01:07:47,700 --> 01:07:46,299
business by streamlining adaptive

1811
01:07:50,039 --> 01:07:47,710
learning and other artificial

1812
01:07:51,900 --> 01:07:50,049
intelligence technologies that replace

1813
01:07:55,349 --> 01:07:51,910
human instructors with competency-based

1814
01:07:57,299 --> 01:07:55,359
education software which provide direct

1815
01:08:00,120 --> 01:07:57,309
assessment through subscription-based

1816
01:08:02,749 --> 01:08:00,130
courseware that data-mine students

1817
01:08:06,359 --> 01:08:02,759
cognitive behavioral algorithms to

1818
01:08:08,279 --> 01:08:06,369
personalize digital lessons very

1819
01:08:10,890 --> 01:08:08,289
synergistic with what we talked about

1820
01:08:12,630 --> 01:08:10,900
today and it makes sense right now that

1821
01:08:14,999 --> 01:08:12,640
we're scared to gather in a room

1822
01:08:17,669 --> 01:08:15,009
together everything goes online and

1823
01:08:20,510 --> 01:08:17,679
every concern raised in today's show

1824
01:08:22,620 --> 01:08:20,520
comes to fruition that much faster and

1825
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:22,630
it's also fitting that the

1826
01:08:27,780 --> 01:08:25,810
same people are involved so this is a

1827
01:08:30,419 --> 01:08:27,790
pretty great one to me I love coming

1828
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:30,429
back to the education system we've had

1829
01:08:36,180 --> 01:08:33,130
some awesome episodes on it but adding

1830
01:08:39,030 --> 01:08:36,190
this technocracy context is exactly how

1831
01:08:41,430 --> 01:08:39,040
to further these conversations and I

1832
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:41,440
even said in the episode that I'd send

1833
01:08:44,459 --> 01:08:43,330
my kids to public school so that they

1834
01:08:47,729 --> 01:08:44,469
learn they have to deal with all sorts

1835
01:08:50,669 --> 01:08:47,739
of people but as we've navigated the few

1836
01:08:53,519 --> 01:08:50,679
short weeks since recording I have to

1837
01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:53,529
say that my wife and I have changed our

1838
01:08:59,129 --> 01:08:56,770
minds most likely if it's gonna be all I

1839
01:09:02,189 --> 01:08:59,139
pad Zand metal detectors and vaccines

1840
01:09:04,559 --> 01:09:02,199
it's no longer worth it and when I look

1841
01:09:07,110 --> 01:09:04,569
into these Montessori or Waldorf schools

1842
01:09:10,079 --> 01:09:07,120
even though I run the risk of raising a

1843
01:09:13,590 --> 01:09:10,089
weirdo kid the vaccination rate at these

1844
01:09:16,260 --> 01:09:13,600
schools is like 7% and they use no

1845
01:09:19,050 --> 01:09:16,270
electronics in the classroom so I think

1846
01:09:21,180 --> 01:09:19,060
about this and the types of parents I

1847
01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:21,190
would meet and I'm a lot more

1848
01:09:25,709 --> 01:09:23,290
comfortable that I'd be entering into a

1849
01:09:28,019 --> 01:09:25,719
local network of families that are more

1850
01:09:29,999 --> 01:09:28,029
likely to be like-minded and helpful in

1851
01:09:32,809 --> 01:09:30,009
a crisis like the one we're having I

1852
01:09:36,539 --> 01:09:32,819
think a lot of us have realized lately

1853
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:36,549
that we love our friends and family but

1854
01:09:40,999 --> 01:09:38,770
it's isolating to be around too many

1855
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:41,009
people who don't share our

1856
01:09:45,959 --> 01:09:43,210
conspiratorial thoughts on something

1857
01:09:48,209 --> 01:09:45,969
like this if we're entering a world

1858
01:09:50,399 --> 01:09:48,219
where people shame each other for

1859
01:09:53,729 --> 01:09:50,409
gathering together or neighbors start

1860
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:53,739
calling the cops on little parties or we

1861
01:09:58,410 --> 01:09:56,050
start getting harassed or even beaten

1862
01:10:00,810 --> 01:09:58,420
for not wearing a face mask in public I

1863
01:10:02,820 --> 01:10:00,820
think we all feel like we can't just

1864
01:10:05,220 --> 01:10:02,830
overlook these differences that we have

1865
01:10:08,149 --> 01:10:05,230
with the people we love when [\h__\h] is

1866
01:10:10,979 --> 01:10:08,159
getting as Extreme as it's getting I

1867
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:10,989
obviously don't even have kids yet and

1868
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:13,090
I'm not saying I would cut anyone out of

1869
01:10:18,689 --> 01:10:16,330
my life not at all but it's just hard to

1870
01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:18,699
go on pretending that we can just avoid

1871
01:10:24,300 --> 01:10:21,489
talking about conspiracy stuff in our

1872
01:10:26,419 --> 01:10:24,310
friend groups anymore like we could when

1873
01:10:30,510 --> 01:10:26,429
it was just some abstract philosophical

1874
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:30,520
difference if that makes any sense and I

1875
01:10:35,220 --> 01:10:33,130
guess I'm just retracting what I said in

1876
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:35,230
maybe the second hour where I mentioned

1877
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:36,010
that

1878
01:10:42,299 --> 01:10:38,530
I tend to want to have one foot in and

1879
01:10:44,009 --> 01:10:42,309
one foot out well that might not apply

1880
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:44,019
to this new reality where they need a

1881
01:10:49,259 --> 01:10:46,570
pound of flesh for you to participate in

1882
01:10:52,470 --> 01:10:49,269
their systems it's getting too expensive

1883
01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:52,480
for me and I'm trying not to speak in

1884
01:10:57,509 --> 01:10:55,210
such absolute terms I never want to be

1885
01:11:00,450 --> 01:10:57,519
overly dramatic like this is gonna last

1886
01:11:02,250 --> 01:11:00,460
forever and we're all screwed I don't

1887
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:02,260
know I don't know anything more than you

1888
01:11:09,810 --> 01:11:05,650
do but a lot of us feel like we've lived

1889
01:11:12,299 --> 01:11:09,820
a life of overhyped cable news [\h__\h]

1890
01:11:16,470 --> 01:11:12,309
we've her little conspiratorial

1891
01:11:19,410 --> 01:11:16,480
fear-based sagas like Jade helm so our

1892
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:19,420
first reaction should be to be skeptical

1893
01:11:25,740 --> 01:11:22,690
but this got real a lot faster than I

1894
01:11:28,410 --> 01:11:25,750
think any of us realize and so now we

1895
01:11:30,870 --> 01:11:28,420
have to hold both ideas in our head is

1896
01:11:33,450 --> 01:11:30,880
this just another hysteria fake-out

1897
01:11:37,379 --> 01:11:33,460
situation or are they really making a

1898
01:11:39,629 --> 01:11:37,389
play this time but he's away John really

1899
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:39,639
killed it today his book is great and

1900
01:11:44,790 --> 01:11:42,010
he's a teacher so he's used to speaking

1901
01:11:49,109 --> 01:11:44,800
at length but man I wish I had his

1902
01:11:51,180 --> 01:11:49,119
energy level just not wound that way but

1903
01:11:54,029 --> 01:11:51,190
I'm also not surprised that he's big on

1904
01:11:56,790 --> 01:11:54,039
martial arts a Taekwondo black belt is

1905
01:11:59,669 --> 01:11:56,800
nothing to sneeze at and not learning to

1906
01:12:02,509 --> 01:11:59,679
fight or play guitar are probably my two

1907
01:12:05,370 --> 01:12:02,519
biggest regrets in life so kudos to him

1908
01:12:07,350 --> 01:12:05,380
he also mentioned not loving social

1909
01:12:08,819 --> 01:12:07,360
media but he has created a Twitter

1910
01:12:11,549 --> 01:12:08,829
account so that he can talk to people

1911
01:12:14,279 --> 01:12:11,559
about the book and all that look him up

1912
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:14,289
under taoist professor it will be in the

1913
01:12:21,089 --> 01:12:16,570
show notes as well I'm surprised that

1914
01:12:22,500 --> 01:12:21,099
wasn't taken but hey he got it and if

1915
01:12:25,169 --> 01:12:22,510
you like the first free hour of the show

1916
01:12:28,109 --> 01:12:25,179
the second hour was a serious deep dive

1917
01:12:29,850 --> 01:12:28,119
into eugenics and man does he know a lot

1918
01:12:31,740 --> 01:12:29,860
about the history and the players who

1919
01:12:33,750 --> 01:12:31,750
have tried to bring aspects of it back

1920
01:12:36,299 --> 01:12:33,760
and she warned it into society at many

1921
01:12:38,069 --> 01:12:36,309
different points in the timeline but we

1922
01:12:41,700 --> 01:12:38,079
also talked about that drive to tie

1923
01:12:44,100 --> 01:12:41,710
genetic data to a student ID and also

1924
01:12:46,890 --> 01:12:44,110
digitizing healthcare databases to be

1925
01:12:48,629 --> 01:12:46,900
merged with that student data and we

1926
01:12:49,649 --> 01:12:48,639
through several other conspiratorial

1927
01:12:51,569 --> 01:12:49,659
logs on the

1928
01:12:53,549 --> 01:12:51,579
fire as well you know the drill the

1929
01:12:56,669 --> 01:12:53,559
higher side shots comm if you want to be

1930
01:12:58,919 --> 01:12:56,679
a plus member I got a lot of archives of

1931
01:13:00,449 --> 01:12:58,929
extra hours you've never heard if you

1932
01:13:05,879 --> 01:13:00,459
like the interviews we do around here

1933
01:13:08,219 --> 01:13:05,889
why not take the full dive and with that

1934
01:13:08,790 --> 01:13:08,229
I am gonna get out of here I've done my

1935
01:13:11,069 --> 01:13:08,800
part

1936
01:13:13,620 --> 01:13:11,079
your move robber baron philanthropist

1937
01:13:16,799 --> 01:13:13,630
technocratic takeover tyrants and agents

1938
01:13:23,729 --> 01:13:16,809
of the school World Order agenda your

1939
01:13:30,089 --> 01:13:23,739
[\h__\h] have a drink enough smoke listen

1940
01:13:35,069 --> 01:13:30,099
to the cast shiny shiny spotlight but

1941
01:13:40,649 --> 01:13:35,079
criminals on blast the Pinstripe man of

1942
01:13:44,489 --> 01:13:40,659
morning and families of Finance do pawn

1943
01:13:49,140 --> 01:13:44,499
Windsor and Rothschild the kids don't

1944
01:13:52,109 --> 01:13:49,150
stand a chance the kids don't the kids

1945
01:13:55,979 --> 01:13:52,119
don't stand the kids don't stand a

1946
01:13:59,009 --> 01:13:55,989
chance I say the kids don't the kids

1947
01:14:04,040 --> 01:13:59,019
don't stand the kids don't stand a

1948
01:14:08,989 --> 01:14:04,050
chance we're looking for the answer to

1949
01:14:14,580 --> 01:14:08,999
questions never asked so we come to the

1950
01:14:19,229 --> 01:14:14,590
Carwood for the higher side chat the

1951
01:14:23,759 --> 01:14:19,239
Pinstripe man of morning and families of

1952
01:14:28,649 --> 01:14:23,769
Finance do pawn Windsor and Rothschild

1953
01:14:32,069 --> 01:14:28,659
the kids don't stand a chance the kids

1954
01:14:35,489 --> 01:14:32,079
don't the kids don't stand the kids

1955
01:14:38,939 --> 01:14:35,499
don't stand a chance I said the kids

1956
01:14:39,790 --> 01:14:38,949
don't the kids don't stand the kids

1957
01:14:58,169 --> 01:14:39,800
don't

1958
01:15:03,609 --> 01:14:58,179
and a chance involved in shady business

1959
01:15:09,430 --> 01:15:03,619
we try to get a glance we're working on

1960
01:15:13,629 --> 01:15:09,440
the numbers resistance must advance the

1961
01:15:18,810 --> 01:15:13,639
Pinstripe men of mourning and families

1962
01:15:23,500 --> 01:15:18,820
of Finance DuPont Windsor and Rothschild

1963
01:15:26,919 --> 01:15:23,510
the kids don't stand a chance the kids

1964
01:15:30,339 --> 01:15:26,929
don't the kids don't stand the kids

1965
01:15:33,790 --> 01:15:30,349
don't stand a chance I said the kids

1966
01:15:38,589 --> 01:15:33,800
don't the kids don't stand the kids

1967
01:15:41,830 --> 01:15:38,599
don't stand a chance the kids don't the

1968
01:15:45,700 --> 01:15:41,840
kids don't stand the kids don't stand a

1969
01:15:48,669 --> 01:15:45,710
chance I said the kids don't the kids